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Bite Sized Help Plz #1
I am in the process of starting the below set up and everything is ready to go in the tank (no water at the moment) . I have a few questions and concerns that I would like answered if possible as I want everything to be lubbly for my new arrivals (when they get here) . I have read a bit regarding the water cycling process etc but before I get that far would like to know the best procedure for filling my tank as I have very “hard” water from my taps . Is it worth me running the tap water through a “Jug water filter” before I fill my tank ?

Also I have a bottle of “King British” “Safe Guard” water treatment and need to know if this is suitable to add to the water when I fill the tank (if im correct I think the tank is approx 14 gallons / for treatment amount purposes) and also is there anything else I need to add to the water ?

I will be getting a tetra 5 in 1 test kit shortly (dipping a big toe just don’t seem to do the job these days) so that I can test the water before adding any fish . Is this kit suitable and will it test everything I need to test ?

I have many more questions to ask but will just keep it to these few for now as im terrible at reading/remembering information and bite size chunks seem the register with me ; )_ Lets fill it up first and move on from there ; )_

Coldwater Set-Up

Light-Glo 24” x 12” x 15” (Canopy and Light)
Fluval 2 Internal Filter
Air Pump and 2 x Small Air Stones
2” / 3” Deep Natural Aquarium Gravel
3 Small Plastic “Grass Like” Plants

To Add
Couple of Small Rocks
Live Plant (Open To Suggestions)


Hoping To Stock (Open To Suggestions)

2 x TeenyWeeny Mirror Carp (Move To Pond When Larger)
2 x Goldies of some sort
2 x Fancys’ (Open To Suggestions)


If any more info is required to answer any of the questions I’ve asked jus lemme know ; )_

Cheers AllSushi2Me
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Re: Bite Sized Help Plz #2
What hardness is your water as goldfish do ok from 6-16, I wouldn't think you need to use a filter. The safe guard will be fine to add as it is a water conditioner which you should always use before adding any water to your tank, as for the test kits the strips are easy to use and do Ph, Gh, Kh, nitrite, and nitrate, you will need a seperate one for ammonia.
They say allow at least 8 uk gallons per goldfish to allow for growth, so unless you plan on getting a larger tank as they grow do not overstock in the beginning, I would say the 2 carp that will be going into the pond and maybe 2 regular goldfish/comets or shubunkins will be plenty as long as they are only small to start with or you will run into trouble keeping the water conditions right.
Fancy goldfish do better kept together with their own type because regular male goldfish can mistake the round bodies of the fancys for females and harras them at breeding time I know this from experience.
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Re: Bite Sized Help Plz #3
Hi have you managed to check your water hardness yet, if so what was the result.
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Re: Bite Sized Help Plz #4
Hi Goldy Thx very much for all your help so far

I haven't managed to check the water as yet from the tap as i am waiting for my tetra 5in1 strips to arrive mail order . You did mention before that these would be fine for testing the water before i add my fish but you also mentioned that i would need a separate ammonia test ... is there a specific one that you could recommend for me just so i can get everything as perfect as possible for the new lodgers when i get them

Cheers again ; )_
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Re: Bite Sized Help Plz #5
The Tetra test strips are easy to use just dip into the tank and compare the colours to the chart on the tub, for ammonia I use Nutrafin which does 70 tests for around £5.99 its fairly easy to use, in the pack You get a test tube, a pipette and a bottle of reagent, you use the pipette to take a sample of the tank water to put into the test tube add 6 drops of the reagent and shake, then compare the colour to the chart and you can see if there is any ammonia present or not, but there are others to chose from. You can get a test case with all the tests in it for around £19.99 I will look out for it and get back to you.
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Re: Bite Sized Help Plz #6
Cheers Goldy strips are on their way , seems like the tank has been ready for ages with no water in it but its worth the wait if the quality of life for the fish when added will be as good as it can possibly be

Cheers Daz ; )_
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Re: Bite Sized Help Plz #7
Hiya Goldy did you have any joy finding a suitable brand of ammonia test ? Thx Daz
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Re: Bite Sized Help Plz #8
Hi Daz The Nutrafin ammonia test kit is easy to use as I already mentioned in my other post, I haven't been to any fish shops lately to check out the case set.
Here is a site I found but the prices varey from shop to shop
http://www.stm-shop.co.uk/acatalog/On ... talogue_Test_Kits_25.html
You can also get a kit by Tetra which is about £19.99