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Oranda With Fin Rot, Cloudy Eye, Swim Bladder Problem & Sore On Side #1
I know ! Poor sod.

I know after i lost mekon i said i would no longer keep aquarium fish but i was persuaded to try and save a red cap last night.

I haven't put him into mekons aquarium as i am paranoid that there is nasty bacteria/parasites in there. Although i have left the pump/filter running since i lost him.

I put this little red cap into 100 litre plastic tub with new de-chlorinated water. I filled it up to about 60 litres, equalised the temperature, 3 airstones, a plant, mini power filter (just to create movement rather than filter effectively), small amount of aquarium salt and a dose of melafix.

The biggest problem with this little guy is that his swim bladder problem leaves him floating on the top on his side,eaving his side slighty out of the water.

Any suggestions on how to keep him under water? Or what else i can do for him?

He is eating and swimming about as best he can.

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Re: Oranda With Fin Rot, Cloudy Eye, Swim Bladder Problem & Sore On Side #2
The side that is out of the water is the side with the sore on.

He also has some black marks on him. I am hoping this is a sign that he is healing.
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Re: Oranda With Fin Rot, Cloudy Eye, Swim Bladder Problem & Sore On Side #3
WHAT A FISH !

This little fella is using the current from the mini filter and the side of the box to stay upside down rather than on his side. Thereby keeping the sore on his side underwater and in the melafix.

He's a fighter.

Come on guys... anything else i can do for him?
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Re: Oranda With Fin Rot, Cloudy Eye, Swim Bladder Problem & Sore On Side #4
Yes, the filter in the box is not mature so test daily for ammonia and nitrite and change enough water every time they appear to keep ammonia at or below 0.25 and nitrite below 0.50. I think you had Prime on order for Mekon, so use it to detoxify these if/when they show up.

If part of the fish tends to stick out of the water, apply a thin layer of Vaseline to protect him from drying out. The black marks sound like ammonia burns.

Add a heater and slowly raise the temperature to about 23/24C - warmer water can help some "floaty" fancies. Also skip feeding for a day or so and then give him so cooked, squished up peas with skin removed in case he's constipated.

Also feed the old filter with ammonia as though doing a fishless cycle as with no fish in there any beneficial bacteria you have will die of starvation.
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Re: Oranda With Fin Rot, Cloudy Eye, Swim Bladder Problem & Sore On Side #5
Thanks again Fish Lady. Where would i be without you. Literally just done an ammonia test and am waiting the 20 mins.

Apparently Mr. Red Cap has been floating dor the best part of a year!

If i can save this one i'll feel so much better about Mekon.
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Re: Oranda With Fin Rot, Cloudy Eye, Swim Bladder Problem & Sore On Side #6
Hi mekon.

20 minutes sound odd for a test Which test kits are you using?

Can you not pinch any of the media from his previous tank at all? Going through a fish-in cycle will be tough on him if he already quite ill.
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Re: Oranda With Fin Rot, Cloudy Eye, Swim Bladder Problem & Sore On Side #7
Hi the test is made by tetra. I have lost the box but still have the chart and the bottles.

I lost my own oranda (Mekon) on Friday (the most gorgeous fish ive ever seen when he was healthy) so i am paranoid that his tank/filter is infested with parasites and/or bad bacteria.
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Re: Oranda With Fin Rot, Cloudy Eye, Swim Bladder Problem & Sore On Side #8
Ah you mean the filter where he used to live? Thats a great shout !
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Re: Oranda With Fin Rot, Cloudy Eye, Swim Bladder Problem & Sore On Side #9
So the two fish (this redcap you mention here and mekon, who died) were in the same tank, originally?

Does tetra make you wait 20 mins for test results? Bit odd, API you can read in just 5.

How large was the tank and how old are/were the two fish.

Mekon didn't die from parasites - given your other thread - but you mentioned he was pineconing which is usally due to liver/kidney failure and osmoregulation failure. This can be triggered/caused by various factors but I would certainly move the media over, if it's still wet to give your remaining fish a chance.

You mentioned both fish has black marks which is likely to be ammonia burns (spikes missed perhaps) so I do think the death was water quality related as opposed to a bacterial infection.
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Re: Oranda With Fin Rot, Cloudy Eye, Swim Bladder Problem & Sore On Side #10
Apologies - phone went as I was replying. If the redcap was from another tank, then yes, is any of that media vaiable at all?
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