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Not sure what these are #1
Hi got two types that i have not kept before. My LFS here in holland only uses Latin names which i did not have the time to record at time of purchase.

Help would be appreciated.

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Re: Not sure what these are #2
and the second one

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Re: Not sure what these are #3
I think the 2nd is a hatchet fish...
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Re: Not sure what these are #4
Yes, I was going to say hatchet fish (and thanks for the angle, I think my neck is fixed now from turning my head on one side, no trip to the osteo for me )

The first looks like some kind of hillstream loach, there are several different species. Is it in a tropical tank?

Where in Holland are you? I haven't been there for years, I've got friends in Rotterdam and I love it there.
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Re: Not sure what these are #5
Thanks Psymongreen and Fishy-Fishy

Sorry about the angle will be sure to correct that for future posts. The fish are in a tropical tank, i now at least have a starting point for looking into what fish it is. I can now update my tank details.

I live in Almere, its really close to Amsterdam. Its nice here, new city so well thought out and family orientated. Cold at the moment but looking at the what happening in the UK we seem to be getting off lightly.
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Re: Not sure what these are #6
I have just seen another post on this board about Hillstream loaches - in the cold water section. My tank is currently at 24 C and looking on google there are mixed temperature ranges for this fish, just wanted to know if anyone has any experience with keep these in a tropical tank.
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Re: Not sure what these are #7
No worries about the angle, I was just messing about

The problem with hillies is that they need a very high level of dissolved oxygen in the water. Warm water holds less oxygen than colder water. In addition to being kept in a cold water tank, they really need a very strong flow of water (this adds extra oxygen) as they are from cool, very fast flowing streams in the wild. Specialist set ups are best for them, they are easy to do though and look really interesting.

I don't think they would do too well in the average tropical tank

ETA- I've never been to any fish shops in Holland but I've heard it's one of the best countries for keeping fish properly (along with Germany), what's it like over there? I'm always interested in how they do it in other countries but the only fish I've seen in Holland were at Rotterdam zoo which is spectacular but probably not representative of the average tank
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Re: Not sure what these are #8
I far as I can see the first fish is a Loricariidae Panaque nigrolineatus. If I am right, these fellas grow upto 14".

There are many plecs that are very similar in this species, and there are literally 100's if not 1000s of different plecs out there.

If you could get a photo of him with his fins extended it will make identification much easier. As he is just a juvenile he will change colour as he gets older.
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Re: Not sure what these are #9
Hi Jaguar , i will google that and see if i can get pictures to compare. if you are right 14 inch is not quite what i want as i have a pair. Lately they have been hanging out together on the bogwood. If they do grow to 14 inchs i will love and care for them until they grow to be to large for my set up and i will donate them to my LFS.

Fishy - Fishy,
I have not had the pleasure of being able to check out any other private tanks. No one i know here owns one.
The store are more or less the same except you get offered a cup of coffee here when you walk in the door. All the stores in the area have some stunning display tanks. The variety of fish is the same as in the UK although the guy i bough my equipment from is a Discus specialist. I have never seen so many Discus fish in one store, he has a whole wall of tanks for them.

I will say the water here is great I think GH is 3d and KH is 6d or the other way around. Not like that liquid rock that came out of the taps in Wimbledon and Slough.
We went to the Rotterdam Zoo and had a look at the fish there, to be honest i was disappointed. A recent trip to Cologne was topped off with a trip to the Zoo's Aquarium. Both reptile and fish displays where awesome.
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Re: Not sure what these are #10
I must admit the Dutch are some of the masters at putting together an amazing Aquarium.

Some of these are,

P.J.W. Engelen

W.J. Zaal

R. Bottenberg.

What shop do you use... is it Aqua Complete.