Re: A tale of four goldfish - how tank size and living conditions can affect fish
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Asumel wrote:
Suey2- I would imagine not many of them but this study was an aim to find the MINIMUM tank size that would not cause any problem with the fish and that is it, proved by science. Obviously that Min has to be exceeded to improve the living conditions for the fish
The 110L is not far off the 180L on the caresheet, and again is providing a MINIMUM tank size that would not cause helth problems with the fish the extra 70L allows them to move and live well.
No need to 'shout', we're all quite capable of reading
How long did this study go on for? Anything less than 40 years and I don't see how it can have conclusively proved anything about goldfish
I'm curious to know how a tank that a fully grown adult would struggle to turn round in, let alone swim in, doesn't cause any problems? I can only agree with FL that the info in this study appears to be being placed out of context in this particular thread
I'm all for things being scientifically proven, and I appreciate certain members may have various qualifications that may or may not give them an insight into areas that others haven't encountered. However, as in all walks of life it would be dull if we were all the same
I too have a healthy set of graduate and post graduate qualifications and several years fishkeeping 'real' experience, but it doesn't make me an expert
Taking scientifically proven concepts out of context can cause problems and I'm afraid I think there is a danger of this happening in this thread
Just because something has been proved for a given reason by one scientific study does not make it indisputable fact IMHO, science should be about keeping an open mind and assessing all further available facts and information and amending theories etc. as knowledge and understanding develops. Not about saying 'right, that's that sorted, next' and never going back to reassess, review etc.
I'm disappointed that anyone thinks certain of us are stuck in our ways
I'd suggest maybe taking a little step back and reassessing the situation
I think it's fair to say it's been quite an 'intense' thread recently and a little reflection on the things that have been said so far would be good for all of us who are taking an interest in this issue
As an aside, the more I keep goldies and the more I learn about them I find myself increasingly uncomfortable with the idea of a common goldie being in 180 litres. We are after all talking about a very big carp capable of reaching a foot or more in length with the body mass to rival a large oscar, the swimming ability and turn of speed to rival a massively oversized danio and an intelligence level not far off, maybe even equal to, an oscar. Not to mention the life expectancy of 20-40 years.
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