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Ladies and Gentlemen, your best guesses please #1
One of my two baby oranchu fry (the oranda one) seems to be having a little trouble. He seems to be a bit weak, the filter intake seems to be catching him a bit (I've put a sponge over it now) but most of the time now he's swimming quite normally, but with his nose to the surface. If he drops down, he swims furiously back up. He doesn't seem to be gulping at it, it's just his nose? the bit above his mouth anyway that's at the surface.

Tank params are:
pH - didn't check! Normally 7.6, will check now
Ammonia - nil
Nitrite - nil
Nitrate - 5? 10? I can't tell the colours apart.

Temp was 24 - I've dropped the heater back to 20 because it was at 22, but somehow the tank got to 24 without it.

Filter outflow is pointed up at the surface, to give some surface agitation.

Any guesses? I'm going to preface this by saying these are not destined to be the healthiest fry to begin with, Mum and Dad are problematic.
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Re: Ladies and Gentlemen, your best guesses please #2
Good old goldies, always doing something weird! Do you think he might be looking for food debris? Have you tried adding an airstone? My babies were hovering around the top at one point and it suddenly occurred to me to add an airstone, lo and behold no more hovering
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Re: Ladies and Gentlemen, your best guesses please #3
Upon further inspection I think he's on the way out, he keeps trying to wedge himself in behind the sponge, or in behind the thermometer on the other end of the tank. The rest of the time he's frantically swimming about.
The outflow pipe does seem to be causing a lot of disturbance, I've pointed it at the back wall of the tank. He's definitely not gulping, or looking for food, he's just swimming barely under the surface.

I don't actually have a working airstone, I'll have to try pick one up tomorrow :(
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Re: Ladies and Gentlemen, your best guesses please #4
He couldn't possibly have got anything stuck in his mouth and he's getting distressed?
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Re: Ladies and Gentlemen, your best guesses please #5
Ooh, didn't think of that. He's very very tiny for his age, they're about the size of tetras, but I'll try take a look.
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Re: Ladies and Gentlemen, your best guesses please #6
i'm possibly clutching at straws, but the frantic swimming sounded distressed somehow Maybe he's swallowed a bit of air somehow, I've only seen this genuinely happen once despite the dire warnings about gulping you see with goldies. The late Lester did it by accident when clearing her gills, she was like a little balloon for the rest of the night but she was quite frantic with her swimming as she couldn't understand what had gone wrong!
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Re: Ladies and Gentlemen, your best guesses please #7
MOST uncooperative.

Couldn't see anything, so I've just let him on his way doing laps of the tank :/

I doubt there's much that could be done with him being so very small. He's also the better of the two in appearance, down to the split tail and round shape, so I was expecting him to be a bit healthier.

I'll see if he's still with us tomorrow and add an airstone :/
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Re: Ladies and Gentlemen, your best guesses please #8
FX he's a little better in the morning
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Re: Ladies and Gentlemen, your best guesses please #9
He was better this morning, zipping about at a normal rate, however now he's just hanging vertically bum-up in the corner :(
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Re: Ladies and Gentlemen, your best guesses please #10
Oh no SF, fx for him!
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