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Bubblebloke Bubblebloke
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  • Posted on: 1/2/2011 18:43
Re: Lethargic Loach #1
Well, I think he's gone now though I can't find the remains. The shop gave me a repalcement, some of their stock looked very small and thin so I selected a larger one this time. Thanks for all your advice!
I've disconnected the co2 controller as it appeared to be giving inaccurate readings. I'm told that the probes don't last so I've ordered a new one.
I've checked all the parameters with API and Nutrafin kits and come up with the following.
Ammonia 0
Nitrite 0
Nitrate 10ppm
GH 180 ppm
KH 60 ppm
PH 7.4

I know the ph is on the high side but within recommended limits, with co2 back in this should come down slightly. Any comments on the others ie GH & KH.


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  • Posted on: 30/1/2011 10:43
Re: Lethargic Loach #2
There are snails in the tank. Don't know what the c02 level is and haven't checked the kH lately, will do so later today and post.


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  • Posted on: 30/1/2011 8:27
Re: Lethargic Loach #3
He has reappeared this morning and seems to be looking for food doesn't have the strength to keep looking. He wants to eat - how can I get it to him?

The co2 is on a contoller with a probe in the tank. It's fed in via a bubble counter then dispersed in the flow from the internal filter. My understanding is that live plants produce co2 when it's dark so wouldn't this affect the ph within a 24 hr cycle anyway?


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  • Posted on: 29/1/2011 16:49
Re: Lethargic Loach #4
I clean the gravel every water change and occasionally lift a rock and clean under/around. some parts of the tank are quite inaccesible due to planting but it's generally clean.


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  • Posted on: 29/1/2011 16:32
Re: Lethargic Loach #5
Yes, recent results. I'm aware of the size issue but have already agreed with my ifs that they'll take them back before they outgrow the tank. The flying foxes have been in for about 3 months, they came from Maidenhead so I assume they know what they're talking about. There doesn't seem to be any aggression towards the loaches or any other fish.
I thought 25% weekly was a little over the top? I measure the levels regularly and they never get out of range.
As for the co2, that's a tough one. I use it because I failed to get live plants growing and used plantgrow which sent the plant growth into orbit and also choked the tank with algae. With the co2 I appear to have a balanced tank with steadily growing plants and low levels of algae.
i have to admit to being a little confused by the ph, gh and gk measurements though.
All my fish appear healthy (apart from a recent attack of cottonmouth on my Angels, qt'd, treated, now OK)
As I write the Clown has disappeared and may have already gone to fishy heaven.


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  • Posted on: 29/1/2011 15:14
Re: Lethargic Loach #6
200 litres
Ammonia,Nitrite Nil, Nitrate 5ppm
co2 injection on controller to 7.5
6 Platies
3 Angels
3 Siamese Flying Fox
3 Clown Loach
2 Small Plec
Tank set up 2 years, Fluval 305 external plus Fluval 3 internal for movement.
Vecton 300 uv.
Change approx 30 litres per week/10 days, changed yesterday plus external filter clean.
Most recent addition was loaches 3 weeks ago.
No new decor, live plants, rock and wood.


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  • Posted on: 29/1/2011 14:37
Lethargic Loach #7
I put 3 clown loaches in my tank about 3 weeks ago and this one has become very lethargic in the last 4/5 days. I'm reluctant to medicate as I've read some horror stories on the affects on loaches though the ifs recommends protozin.
Any ideas please.

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  • Posted on: 6/10/2009 9:19
Re: Hard Water Fish - suited to tropical set up #8
I have water ph 7.5 + and have just read this article. It suggests collecting rainwater which is relatively straightforward but I've just measured the ph and it also comes out at over 7. Is this likely to be correct?



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