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darknite darknite
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  • Posted on: 31/5/2009 13:23
New tropical fish keeper advice #1
Hello tropical regions of FK, my coldwater fish sadly passed away a few days ago leaving behind a 75ltr tank. I am thinking of getting tropical fish but have no clue about them what so ever. I've checked the articles section on FK and theres nothing there which shows a "rough starting out guide".


How would I go about starting my experience with tropical fish? I have a 75ltr tank, fluval U2 filter (2months old). I have just gave my tank a full clean (washed gravel, glass and put new water in).

Like coldwater fish do you also put in tapsafe to tropical fish water? I don't understand this as the interpet tapsafe I have only mentions goldfish?

I do know I have to cycle the tank, can anyone give me an idea about the tapsafe to reduce chlorine, how long to cycle and key points I should carry out before buying the tropical fish? Thanks.


darknite darknite
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  • Posted on: 31/5/2009 12:28
Re: White strings #2
Thank you suey and stardust, are minnows coldwater? I'm thinking of going to tropical fish as I got a heater with my tank when I bought it. Going to give my tank a full clean, gravel, glass, the lot. Then put fresh water in and just let the filter clean the water for about a month until I decide what im going to get.


darknite darknite
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  • Posted on: 29/5/2009 16:09
Re: White strings #3
Thank you for your support everyone,

unfortunately Quattro has died today :'* I'm really upset as he was my first fish and very unique. I came home and he was on his side at the bottom. He's still lying there at the bottom im kind of hoping he's playing dead or something but I know it won't happen :( Aaah man I don't believe it :(

This is so unfair man ! Just can't get over it. I now have a empty 75ltr tank :(.

Thanks for your help thought

R.I.P Quattro, you was my cool friend :(


darknite darknite
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  • Posted on: 28/5/2009 16:55
Re: White strings #4
Just checked on Quattro, he's sitting again and gasping so i'm assuming the earlier thing was a freak thing. I've noticed that he seems bloated around his stomache region like inflated, does anyone know why this can be? Thanks.


darknite darknite
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  • Posted on: 28/5/2009 12:48
Re: White strings #5
:) I'll follow your routine aswell! Do they eat daphnia aswell? Off to buy some plants now :D


darknite darknite
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  • Posted on: 28/5/2009 11:52
Re: White strings #6
Thanks stardust and pablo....


There has been a miracle!!!! I took your advice on cleaning the filter mediums and after 10 mins of replacing them back into the U2 fluval filter Quattro suddenly "SHOT" up to the surface a his usual speed and actually jumped out the water! He's swimming around more now, slowly but surely! After his fe rounds he comes back to the bottom to relax and then takes a few more rounds!

This is unbelievable, i'm assuming that the salt and cleaning of filter have helped him :) (I'm looking at him now and his swam to his favorite spot (under the filter where there are water currents).


YAY! Thanks everyone below is a summary (all the notes of this topic) for anyone else experiencing the same problem can refer to in the future:

Incase of nitrite poisoning:

- Make sure your filter media is clean
- Use Aquarium salt to counter the nitrITE. (ensure it is not normal table salt as the preservatives can burn the skin)
- Increase areation
- Stop feeding the fish few a week allowing the nitrite to be cleared up.
- Always double check with someone the amount of food to be given (2/3 times a day is too much)
- Install live aquarium plants which will help regulate the water deep down.

Hope this helps, thanks again everyone.


darknite darknite
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  • Posted on: 27/5/2009 22:02
Re: White strings #7
Thanks for your ongoing help.

I do not clean the filter as I did not know you do this I was only told to replace the sponges every 3months.

I was actually at my local LFS looking for some plants today but they did not have any. I will have alook at some other fish shops tomorrow.

The light is always off, I only used it so I could capture it. Yeah not a very good video he was in a weird position.
I lifted both caves up and vaccumed under it and alot of debris come out. The one thing which I think has led to this is the actual vaccuming!

During the vaccuming alot of debris was floating around, bits of food, excrement etc. I think he may have swallowed some of this as this is around the time he became ill. He is breathing heavily but i've made sure the air filter is always on aswell as lifting the air filter out the water abit which causes it to spurt out bubbles.

I added some aqua tonic salt by interpret so hopefully this helps. I think it might be the nitrite like you said causing the oxygen not to bind properly. Hopefully the salt helps and the plants I get tomorrow will aerate the water deeply by releasing oxygen. It hurts me to see him breathe so deeply as it must be painful :(

There is not white fluff or spots anywhere i've had a good look neither can I see finrot. (which rules out infection hopefully!)

One thing I did notice is that his orange spots (he has four on his face) have started to go pale and disappear. I would not know what to look for in regards to a heavy slime coat, unfortunately. His gills do look like fresh and red which is one good thing :) I can't smell anything bad from the water and it seems to look clear aswell.

Here are two more videos i've taken to get a better view of him:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kEaLSdy23Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcfE4Dx56VA

my LFS told me that I should not feed him for a week as i've been feeding him 2/3 times a day as stated on the container and he said that it's too much, which could be the reason for high levels in nitrite. Is this a good thing to do?

Thank You :) Oh yeh sorry, I don't have a temperature at the moment but i'm trying to locate one and will get the recording up ASAP.


darknite darknite
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  • Posted on: 27/5/2009 17:54
Re: White strings #8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XK19R7UIxL4

I video of my fish to show you what it's doing right now :(


darknite darknite
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  • Posted on: 27/5/2009 17:08
Re: White strings #9
Sorry ammonia is 0ppm. I gave it a 50% water change yesterday. I give it a 20% water change every two weeks and have started to vaccum it once a week. So far ive vaccumed it twice. Shall I put him into another tank with fresh water?


darknite darknite
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  • Posted on: 27/5/2009 16:35
Re: White strings #10
Went to my LFS and got some water tests done.

Ammonia: ppm
NitrITE: 0.25-0.50 (the colour was purple and was in between this range)
pH: The guy said it was normal ( I remember it being a grey colour I think)

Any ideas everyone :(



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