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  • Posted on: 15/12/2016 4:27
Re: Compatibility of white clouds and guppies? #1
I've found doing small, partial water changes throughout the day and keeping fans pointing towards the helps a lot.
And with my fishless cycle, I simply filled my tank with dechlorinated water, and everyday used a dose of beneficial bacteria and added a very small portion of fish food daily/once every 2 days. I even had ornaments in the tank from a previously cycled tank.
There was absolutely 0 progress for 4 weeks, no nitrites, no nitrates, only ammonia, and the ammonia just kept building up until it was 8ppm+ so I had to start doing water changes to lower it to an ideal level for cycling.
As soon as I added the fish it really did jump start the cycle.

All my fish in the past have had completely normal behaviour throughout and after the cycle. Never once did any of my fish ever show aggression, unusual swimming or unusual eating habits. All my fish get along incredibly well. The only time my fish have died is from ich, where I've used treatments but it hasn't worked. Otherwise my fish have never been affected in any observable way. A lot of people find fish-in cycles ethically wrong, but when done right without fail, the fish are perfectly fine.


GabbyFord GabbyFord
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  • Posted on: 12/12/2016 20:00
Re: Compatibility of white clouds and guppies? #2
Thank you for your response. I'll put off getting guppies till then.
I've always done fish-in cycles, it's just the way I do it and can get it done more efficiently. It's my go-to way, and it isn't as bad as it is made out to be. I've tried a fishless cycle and I had it running for 4 weeks before I had enough and bought fish to cycle the tank, as soon as I started the fish-in cycle it progressed significantly quicker.
I'm not sure why I find it easier, perhaps they contribute to adding ammonia everyday and that helps. But there is a specific way to do the cycle with fish, so I'm definitely not just throwing them in there and proceeding like a fishless cycle.

And I can't get the temperature of the tank down, it's summer here and the temperature is constantly between 30-40, if not, higher than 40, which makes the tank water's temperature around 23-24 and I honestly don't know what to do to keep the water cool. I feel bad for the white clouds because I know if I don't find a way it could get worse throughout the summer.


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  • Posted on: 11/12/2016 13:38
Compatibility of white clouds and guppies? #3
At the moment I have 5 white clouds. It's important to mention, I have a tropical tank which is kept at 24 degrees. I believe at first the fish were a little unsure of how to feel (because they're cold water) but now they're extremely playful and swim altogether, they eat all their food and love the hornwort and wisteria in my tank. They even chase my sponge I use to clean algae off the glass. They are pretty hardy fish, even the staff at the aquarium store knew I was keeping a tropical tank but still recommended them to me.

I seriously love guppies, I always have, would they be compatible with the white clouds? Not water parameter-wise, because in that sense they are compatible, but are either of them known to attack other species? Or display aggressive, territorial behaviour?
The only other thing I plan to keep in the tank is a mystery snail.

I understand the controversy about keeping cold water fish with tropical fish, and I tried to ask this question on another website but I was stopped in my tracks with brutal criticism when they discovered I used my white clouds for a fish-in cycle. Which is the only type of cycle I've ever done. I'd love to read everyone's opinions on the topic of the guppies and white cloud's compatibility.
I'll be buying another tank on Christmas which will be dedicated only to tropical species, when that is established I will transfer the guppies if I buy them.

I apologise if anything in my post is 'wrong' (for instance: the forum topic where I posted it, but this is my first day on the site and need to familiarise myself).



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