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  • Posted on: 25/4/2015 20:47
Re: Over-amourous Blackmoor with loose scale. #1
Thankyou.
Will give it a go sometime over the next couple of days.
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  • Posted on: 25/4/2015 8:28
Over-amourous Blackmoor with loose scale. #2
Hello Everyone,
Pop has been chasing Bubbles around and has knocked himself. Problem is that one scale has moved but not fallen off and has over the past week started to look a bit swollen.
Also, probably completely unrelated but he has started to change colour. It started sith his bottomhole turning orange, this is spreading across his rear abdomen. Behind his pectoral fins is turning gold (actual gold not fish gold).
Otherwise eating and behaving completely normal, for a crazy goldie that is!
Tried to get pics but really wouldn't be of any help they were all blurred.
Thanks in advance

4 fancies had them since June, they were tiny. Plus one surviving baby.
300 litres
Fluval 450
Fake plants
Bogwood pieces
Water change due this evening, usually 50-75% every 5-7 days dependant on test results.
Normal results are pH 6.5 but boosted to 7 with bicarb, temp 23-25, ammonia 0, nitrites 0 and nitrates 0-10 after pwc.
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  • Posted on: 13/3/2015 12:22
Re: Unhappy fish :-( #3
Thanks once again Fish lady!
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  • Posted on: 13/3/2015 12:20
Re: New Guppy Problem #4
Sad news.
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  • Posted on: 13/3/2015 10:46
Re: Unhappy fish :-( #5
pH result for standing tap water was 6.6
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  • Posted on: 12/3/2015 20:36
Re: Unhappy fish :-( #6
Thanks for that.
I'm curious as to what has happened though. I used to test pH every week but stopped as it was always the same.
I don't know what has caused this seemingly sudden drop.
I always knew the pH was at the low end of fancy tolerances but as I never came across any problems in the first few months when I was testing more than once a week then it would probably be better to not start altering levels and such.
Could it be that being low for a long time has lead to their current symptoms or more likely that for whatever reason the tank has suffered a recent drop greater than the usual gassing off?
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  • Posted on: 12/3/2015 17:37
Re: New members please say hello #7
Great news! Cycling can take about 6-8 weeks, sometimes longer. Fish in cycling causes unnecessary suffering to your fish, if you can return them until your tank is ready that really would be best.
Don't forget to start new thread through the appropriate sections on the forum. You will get much better assistance that way.
Again, good luck.
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  • Posted on: 12/3/2015 15:00
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I'm afraid that isn't "cycling" it is unfortunately the poor advice that a lot of stores give out, all it does is mean you had 4 day old water. Cycling establishing a bacterial colony in the filter media which removes ammonia and nitrite from the water (waste), there is an article on here about how to cycle your tank. Unfortunately goldfish produce a large amount of waste, both physical waste and invisible waste through breathing. This coupled with the fast growth rate and large adult size is why it is advised they are kept in much larger volumes of water. If you cannot increase the size of your tank significantly (200 litres or more) then I would advise returning them to the store.
Sorry, many if us (me included) have fallen into the same trap after following store advice.
Best thing is to do what is right for the fish.
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  • Posted on: 12/3/2015 12:43
Re: New members please say hello #9
Hi James,
Welcome.
Please check out the articles regarding goldfish growth rate and space requirements.
25 litres is too tiny for any fish really but golgies need at least 140 litres for the first fish plus 40 litres per fish on top!!!
Also did you cycle the tank? If yes was it fish in or fishless?
Do you use dechlorinater? Tap safe etc?
Do you have a liquid based water test kit?
Also, though I am guessing your goldies are teeny right now, if you do upgrade your equipment and keep them, as soon as the danios fit in their mouths they will eat them!
Use the cold water forum to post any queries or concerns and I'm sure you will get sorted.
Good luck.
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  • Posted on: 12/3/2015 11:51
Re: Unhappy fish :-( #10
pH in tank showing a color not on the result card! But I am guessing it is not good, best described as a diluted version of the test solution, not yellow as on the card but a sort of beige, tested twice, same result. I am assuming this means pH below 6.0!!!
Tested tap water this morning, 7.4 and left a glass to test tomorrow.

What may have caused the pH to drop?
What can I do about it?

I don't have gH and kH tests, utility website says:soft water, average hardness 15.5mg/l calcium, whatever that means?

PWC due tonight and was thinking about putting some of the fake plants back in.
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