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NJS1982 NJS1982
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  • Posted on: 30/7/2015 10:33
Re: Too many fish? #1
Hi all, thought I would give another update to this...

The shubumpkin has lost its growths! The koi with pox has nearly got rid of it all and the orfe, whilst still crooked, is still happy (and I may add, perhaps less crooked though it could just be my eyes!)

All of these changes and improvements have only occured in the past couple of months and I believe it is because I have changed their food. I now feed them a 4-combo mix of Tetra (inc. one to bring out their colour) and two types of MediKoi food - one the probiotic one and one the general day to day food. This is obviously why they have had such an improvement, feeding them good quality food and fixing them from the inside out. I'm very happy!

As for the blue orfe, still no sign and a complete mystery. I understand that the heron may have had them, but still - it's odd to just select those three and I would say the orange ones would have been much easier to catch! Anyway, contemplating three more small ones in the coming weeks as they just look so different to what I have!

Thanks again for the help :) Glad I didn't euthanase them, and so are they.


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  • Posted on: 30/7/2015 10:16
Re: Various fish ailments #2
Hi all, thought I would give another update to this...

The shubumpkin has lost its growths! The koi with pox has nearly got rid of it all and the orfe, whilst still crooked, is still happy (and I may add, perhaps less crooked though it could just be my eyes!)

All of these changes and improvements have only occured in the past couple of months and I believe it is because I have changed their food. I now feed them a 4-combo mix of Tetra (inc. one to bring out their colour) and two types of MediKoi food - one the probiotic one and one the general day to day food. This is obviously why they have had such an improvement, feeding them good quality food and fixing them from the inside out. I'm very happy!

As for the blue orfe, still no sign and a complete mystery. I understand that the heron may have had them, but still - it's odd to just select those three and I would say the orange ones would have been much easier to catch! Anyway, contemplating three more small ones in the coming weeks as they just look so different to what I have!

Thanks again for the help :)


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  • Posted on: 9/4/2015 9:06
Outdoor Switch Box #3
Hi all, I have a Blagdon 5-way remote control switch box, and it has failed. I haven't had it long and it is the second one I have had. Can anyone recommend a similar, perhaps more industrial, box so as I can re-wire my lights back into it? Thanks!


NJS1982 NJS1982
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  • Posted on: 21/9/2014 23:07
Re: pond strip down and clean #4
Dundeejamie, if the weather is still fairly mild up there, you could do a little maintenance now I'm sure. The problem with doing anything major in the spring is if you leave it too late you will upset the wildlife. My pond goes crazy in the spring with a lot of activity, probably the busiest (and noisiest!) time of the year with frogs, toads, newts etc.

You could try some basic cleaning, remove debris a little at a time. I have an Oase Pond Vac which I used to use when my pond had been neglected by previous owners. Bit of a pain but once I got to hang of it, was quite effective!

Good luck!


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  • Posted on: 21/9/2014 23:02
Re: Pond advice please #5
I have replied to the new thread Billy :)


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  • Posted on: 21/9/2014 22:59
Re: Reposted for "billy1" #6
Hi, I tend to switch to wheatgerm when the temperature drops a little more (think it was about 14 degrees C tonight) and the fish really start to slow down a little more.

As for other prep, just make sure you remove dead and dying plants and other debris, I did mine yesterday and it is a lot clearer now but there is still a lot of greenery still growing. My lillys haven't really flowered this year (think my water is not still enough) but if yours is still flowering, then let it bloom!


NJS1982 NJS1982
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  • Posted on: 21/9/2014 22:45
Re: Too many fish? #7
Yes, 2010, I was being sarcastic. Tongue in cheek comment, myth-busting at its best. I realise it is down to genetics, not only because I am educated but also because at the rate my fish eat, I would be amazed they didn't all reach 2.5m some time ago.

Ok so option one would be the euthanasia of my largest, healthy fish? I won't run that past them myself for fear of them deciding to actually grow to 2.5m, taking a crash course in learning how to fly and for them to swing by your place wielding a syringe of barbiturate and saying you are too small for your house (yes, they would also take lessons in the English language).

As for the other option of handing them over to somebody with an enormous lake, hoping they are not too fussy about the fish having friends with less than perfect body image - we all know how cruel the celebrity world of koi can be (I myself blame the media for that downward spiral of events) - I'll give that some considerable thought.

Or I could just dig a bigger home for my less than perfect but equally special aquatic friends and the other wildlife that visits. Now there's an idea...

In the meantime I have cleared some of the excess plants out and they have a lot more space to swim about, up, down, side to side. I've seen it all this evening. Or they could just be getting excited about the prospect of taking this crash course in aviation.

As for me researching lots more on fish...I'll rely on my existing education (even though two years of fish and reptile study modules was rather painful as it focused predominantly on fish in tanks rather than the pond variety), other friendlier and more helpful forum members or here's an idea, I'll just ask them, their English is improving as I type.

Thanks for your input 2010, really helpful.


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  • Posted on: 21/9/2014 17:13
Re: Too many fish? #8
So the old adage of a fish will only grow to the size of the pond is nonsense then, huh?!

Do you have any idea what I can do with them then? Must admit I do like buying smaller fish and watching them grow, that's the best part. But I'd be gutted to get rid of the bigger ones, they're almost like family now! However I want then to have a very good life so a bigger home would be the best for them.

If only I could persuade the OH to have a bigger pond built, eh?!


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  • Posted on: 21/9/2014 16:30
Too many fish? #9
Hi all, just a quick one...do you think I have too many fish in my pond?

I have about:
- 7 medium-large koi (largest probably about 50cm?)
- 5 or 6 small-medium koi (couple of years old)
- 3 golden Orfe
- 8 or 9 various sized goldfish/Shubumpkin

My pond is about 7,000 litres, average of 3.5m x 2.5m by 80cm deep on average. I have a few plants and an Oase BioSmart and Oase 2500 fountain. I have a selection of Blagdon pond lights.

My concern is that the big ones have got too big, too many and they are not happy. They seem happy and the large ones were here when I bought the house some 7 years ago.

I've only ever lost one small koi which was one of three and that was over a winter some years ago. I had other fish which seem to have disappeared over the years, all smaller ones (all my blue Orfe, oddly).

I have a couple of the smaller fish with long term ailments (listed in another pos) but...is it time to look for a new, bigger home for some of these fish? I'd hate to have to get rid of any but don't want them suffering if the pond really is too small...

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NJS1982 NJS1982
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  • Posted on: 21/9/2014 15:45
Re: Various fish ailments #10
Hi, thanks for the response to this; really useful.

The Orfe and Shubumpkin, no changes there and still swimming and eating fine all these months later.

No idea what happened to the Blue Orfe, that is still a mystery! Not seen them all year!

Back to my Koi with the Pox. It still has it, if anything, worse and now on it's tail and fins. I would say it is covering about 70% of it now. I was expecting it to improve over the warmer summer. Whilst unsightly, I would honestly say that it does not seem to affect the fish at all. It swims fine, eats fine and just has these white fluffy areas all over it, including it's mouth. I don't know what to do, I can't take a very clear picture to show you but I am really worried about it. Obviously it doesn't seem to be spreading to the other fish but I'd really like to clear it up somehow if I can.

Anyone have any ideas??



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