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suey2 suey2
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  • Posted on: 26/2/2006 17:17
Re: Fin Rot #7811
sorry about your fish sounds like you did all the right things


suey2 suey2
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  • Posted on: 26/2/2006 2:12
Re: Fin Rot #7812
My LFS swears by Sabbactisun - it's a non-chemical herbal remedy meant to boost the fish's immune system and help them heal themselves, I've not use it on finrot but I've had excellent results on a nasty bacterial infection. It says it treats finrot too. Harmless to filters and other fish so might be worth a go.

Hope the fish pulls through, mine turned out to be tougher than I gave him credit for.

All the best, S


suey2 suey2
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  • Posted on: 23/2/2006 23:10
Re: can anyone help? possible parasite problem #7813
Hi - there are only a few left tonight so I think they must have been baby daphnia (I'm afraid they were too small to really tell what they looked like for certain, more buggy than wormy I'd say) and he's eaten them/they've got sucked into the filter. Looks like a false alarm. Had a good look at the stones and they are clear. Water tests are good, ammonia and nitrites at zero, nitrates average. PH is a little high at 8.2, the tapwater is less so will do a few small water changes over the next few days.

He's looking better still tonight; there's less flicking and shaking and the red on the gills has gone. Looks like he's finally on the mend.

Thanks to everyone who's offered advice and information, much appreciated. With any luck he'll be able to move into his new bigger tank soon.


suey2 suey2
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  • Posted on: 22/2/2006 19:58
Re: can anyone help? possible parasite problem #7814
no I didn't - I had no idea I should do

On a brighter note, despite the lack of water testing kits at the pet shop in town (not my preferred lfs which has the audacity to close before I can get there during the week)I've just found a full testing kit for freshwater which the nice man from eBay that sold us the bigger tank put in the box of bits to go with it - I'll be testing tomorrow


suey2 suey2
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  • Posted on: 22/2/2006 19:36
Re: can anyone help? possible parasite problem #7815
I've just noticed some tiny white critturs which appear to be walking around on the inside of the glass. Fishdoc says the argulus lice are 5-10mm, these are minute, 1mm if that. I've just found koicarp.org which says 1-5mm.

Is it possible they are baby daphnia? Or is this the evil louse baby? I really can't remember seeing them before, I hope I've not brought anything dreadful into the tank with the live daphnia I gave him last night. He is still shaking every now and then but he's not scratching on the gravel or rubbing on anything. Ooer ...

I still can't see anything on him though.


suey2 suey2
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  • Posted on: 22/2/2006 12:52
Re: can anyone help? possible parasite problem #7816
Hi - the patch by his gills looks sore rather than bloody, I don't think it is as red as it was. They look ok inside as far as I can tell. I've looked up details of argulus lice and I don't think it is this,(really hope not - they sound ghastly creatures!) I still can't see anything on him or in the water but he does seem to be perking up and has started eating again which has got to be a good sign He did manage to catch a fair few daphnia last night.

I'm wondering if it could all be down to stress and he'll just get better slowly?

Cheers, S



suey2 suey2
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  • Posted on: 21/2/2006 21:14
Re: can anyone help? possible parasite problem #7817
Hello again - the red patch at the base of the dorsal fin looks irritated rather than bloody, seems to be in/under the skin rather than open. There is a slight corresponding mark on the dorsal fin where it touches his back when he clamps his fins. He's had this before and I thought it was bacterial.

I'll try and get a water testing kit tomorrow, I have to confess I didn't realise the full implications of the cycle until finding out more on the forums over the last few days (hangs head in shame), I always thought that if nitrates were ok then that meant the rest was too as they come at the end of the cycle (if that makes sense!).

Thanks for the feedback, it's very kind. If I can return the favour in the future I will.

The daphnia are enjoying their new home but he seems to have worked out that if he swims around with his mouth open he's bound to strike lucky eventually

The comet scoffed all hers within seconds. I'm pretty certain she was disease free, the place she came from always quarantine them before putting them up for sale.

Cheers - Suey


suey2 suey2
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  • Posted on: 21/2/2006 18:29
can anyone help? possible parasite problem #7818
Hello - this is my first visit here so here's some background info (and apologies for the essay!).

I have a 14 year old 8.5 inch (nose to tip of tail) goldfish who lives in a 50 litre tank (possibly a bit small but he is due to move into a 440 litre in a couple of weeks). It has an internal biological filter which has been running for years and is only cleaned in tank water. The carbon and ammonia filters are removed at the moment for medication but I've left the Nitrazorb in. The water is ok as far as I can tell and I did a 25% change last night.

He lived alone until 6 weeks ago when I got a 4 inch sarassa comet to keep him company. After 4 weeks she bullied him severely - serious fin nipping and damage, hounding him round the tank relentlessly and leaving him highly stressed. She was immediately evicted and now lives alone in another tank (we hope to rehome her in a friend's pond ).

He then developed a bacterial infection (white poo, swimming nose down, red patch at base of dorsal fin and pectoral fins, clamped fins, general mopeyness and loss of appetite) and possible finrot (cloudy marks and small fluffy looking lump) as well as an ulcer on a pore on his lateral line which had a fluffy top to it. I think all this was brought on by the stress and have treated the fin rot and he is now undergoing a course of Sabbactisun for the bacterial infection. I'm doing regular water changes too. He has improved.

I've now noticed a small red patch at the top edge of one of his gills and am concerned he has a parasite problem. He flicks a bit and shakes his head but I originally thought it was because the ulcer was itching him. I can't see anything on him and he is not showing the sprinkled with salt look associated with whitespot but he does have one or two (literally) small white marks on his tail and dorsal fin (I've heard these can be due to bacterial infections so am not sure about this).

I've added salt at 2% solution and have started him on a course of Parazoryne which is meant to deal with a range of parasites. This can be used at the same time as Sabbactisun as both are from the same company and are herbal remedies meant to work by stimulating the immune system so I don't think he can overdose.

He's been off his food for days but ate some of his favourite dried pellets last night. He'll only eat floating food at the moment for some reason so I have trouble getting him to eat peas etc. Last time I tried he spat them out anyway . I've got him some live daphnia for this evening but his eyesight is not brilliant and last time he had them they ran rings round him.

The red patch at the base of his dorsal fin has made a reappearance too. He is still mopey but has been a little more active the last day or so.

Can anyone suggest what might be wrong with him as I am at a bit of a loss?

Many thanks
Suey



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