MissP-
yep all my fish are in the same tank now.
I got them a very sexy 350l Juwel tank-the new Juwel Rio 300. I love it and so do they!
I'm still not sure about the internal filter and wished they didn't have them, but I prefer the Juwel cabinets to the fluval ones. It's not so bad though as I have a black background on the tank so you can't really see the filter as it blends in with the background.
My only other wish with it would be that the shelves in the cab were adjustable height-they're not and i've had to take a shelf out to fit my external into the cabinet.would be nice to have had more holes to raise the shelf up. I know I can glue it in place, but a few holes from Juwel wouldn't be hard for them to do and it would make the cabinet perfect.

I quite like this hijack.
I'm going to look into that beer heater thingybob too.
Still not found me a fountain pump to get my water from my big container to the tank so I'm still bucket wrestling. Yawn.

I totally agree with the others regarding the tank.If you have the money now,then get new tank, get cab built and ready to go into place, move fish into a plastic container/small tank whilst you swap tanks over...then drain the old tank, move it out of the way, shunt the new tank into it's place, set up the filter with the good media, do the decor, subsrate etc, fill with water, switch everything on, put fish in. Everything will be perfect.
This is what I did when I get my new tank 10days ago and it all went smoothly. Then you need to store/sell the old tank.
I doubt your landlady will notice the difference between a 160& 240... If you had a 21litre and suddenly got a 240 then she might spot the difference!
IF she does say anything then agree with her-that it does look bigger..it's amazing what changing the colour of the gravel does,isn't it? Guess it's like changing the paint colour in a room-makes such a difference.
Your fish will thankyou for the extra space, I know mine do (well they've not *actually* said thankyou,but I can hear them thinking it!)

Rachel, that's fantastic news! Keep an eye on the perameters fro the next few days but it sounds like your filter is doing what it's supposed to do. I'm so pleased for you.
I'd up the feeding slightly and over the next few days get the fish up to what they should normally be eating.
Your filter is more than adequate for the tank so it should cope fine with a normal feeding regime.
What a good start to the weekend.

Hi Rachy,

Personally, I would leave it, at least for another day.
you only changed the water 48 hours ago, so a 'normal' tank wouldn't be due a water change yet.
The ammonia obviously is there, and that should get converted by the filter (assuming you're cycled). in a cycled tank there has to be ammonia at some point, even in minute amounts that doesnt show on the tests for the nitrite to happen and in turn the nitrate.
I know we don't want to leave our fish knowingly in water that we don't consider perfect..but I would be tempted to wait and see what the readings are tomorrow and maybe even Sunday if the readings tomorrow are not horrific.
The 2 fantails I rescued from work had been swimming around in terrible water for months and months and they survuved just fine. (I'm not saying leave yours in water for months that you know to be bad.... I know you wouldn't do that!- I'm just saying that 24 hours or even 48 hours won't do any harm in my opinion.)
Again, I bow to more experienced keepers, but this is what I did when I was doing a fish in cycle on my first tiny tank...I left the water alone for a few days after weeks of daily changes and the readings came right.
good luck!

If you do decide to try antibiotics, Fish Mox is amoxicillin and you can get that under either name from various places online.

Hi Ziggy and Miss P. Good to see you again!

I have a thought to throw out about Rachy's tank, and I don't know if it's a good idea or not-I'll wait for a more experienced fishkeeper to comment, but assuming over the time that Rachy has been cycling her tank that it should be cycled by now. I think that from very frequent water testing Rachy is picking up on ammonia spikes very quickly and immediately doing a water change (I think I understand that right).
If Rachy doesn't do a water change at the first sign of a little ammonia, and left the tank alone, wouldn't a cycled tank then convert the ammonia to nitrite and then to nitrate?
I test my water weekly, which is much less frequently than I believe Rachy does, and I'm wondering if for example there is an ammonia spike from spawning goldfish right now and I don't know about it and the filter has done it's job by the time I next test the water.

Would not changing the water immediately help at all?
Just a thought.

Is that the whole gang here now? Almost I think!
Jay, I told Rachy and Frances about this site after you told me, and they've arrived-yayyy! Now we can all bug you again for advise!
Lisa, good to see you.
I'm not in touch with anyone else off the goldfish forum. Would be good to get as many as poss here till pfk is back.

Anyway, as for the filters,I'm a tetratec girl, so i would have to say go for a tetratec.
Andi x

If you keep the small tank on the windowsill for a while before you get the snails and put some stones in it you can grow some algae for them. They eat a lot though.
I quarantined mine for a few weeks in a tank with a small filter and gave them the algae I'd grown plus some algae wafers.

gotcha. thankyou.
I might go with the fountain pump as it sounds cheaper for the time being and then invest in an inline dechlorinator once I've realised I need ANOTHER bottle of dechlorinator! lol