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fcmf fcmf
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  • Posted on: 30/6 15:25
Re: Clear ammonia was NOT... #21
Sorry to read about this but, thankfully, at least you've discovered the error now. I did a google search for that particular product and see that someone else on another forum has encountered the same problem; I'll PM you the link to that thread so that you can read it and the advice for yourself.

In essence, the advice is that:
* if there are any soaps/perfumes in it, it would affect the tank and filter as it could leach into the tank items (media, decor, substrate) which would be hard to get rid of without and maybe not even with at least incessant rinsing;
* you could test this out by seeing if bubbles form which don't go away immediately.

You could maybe also contact the manufacturer for a list of ingredients. However, I'd definitely change the water and start incessant rinsing of everything in the tank, then start again with ammonia such as Jeyes' Kleen-Off.

Better that than inadvertently inflict any toxic harm on your betta when he eventually moves into his new home.

Best of luck.


Nunciata Nunciata
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  • Posted on: 30/6 14:05
Clear ammonia was NOT... #22
Hello again,

I’ve been cycling a tank for 12 days now. I couldn’t figure out why I’m not seeing any change in the water chemistry. Come to find out the ammonia I’m using is not just ammonia. Ugh! I bought LA’s totally awesome ammonia. It has surfactants and other things that I’m sure hinder cycling.

My question, do I need to change out my water completely or can I just start using real ammonia? My betta has already endured more than he should have. So I want to get back on track as soon as possible.

Feeling sad for my fish. Thanks for helping me help him.


Nunciata Nunciata
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  • Posted on: 30/6 13:26
Re: Plant and fish noob #23
Thanks to you both for the information!


fcmf fcmf
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  • Posted on: 30/6 13:10
Re: Plant and fish noob #24
Sorry - meant to reply to this the other day. In addition to that, other options I've tried for weighing down plants include:
* multiple terracotta rings round their base to secure them;
* planted into mini terracotta pots filled with sand (+/- a root tab);
* secured to decor with cable tie;
* attempting to weigh them down with a pebble;
* JBL Plantis pegs (probably best if you have soil to secure them into as opposed to sand or gravel).

Hopefully your own suggestions or one of these will help.


Fishlady Fishlady
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  • Posted on: 30/6 10:29
Re: Plant and fish noob #25
Yes to both


China42 China42
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  • Posted on: 29/6 11:56
Re: Newbie fishless cycling #26
Thank you so much for your help with this - it has been extremely useful!


Nunciata Nunciata
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  • Posted on: 28/6 23:30
Plant and fish noob #27
Hello,

I have gravel in my 5 gallon tank. I have two plant bunches that are hellbent on floating. Can I secure them to the ceramic ring they came in to weigh them down.. can I use a rubber band to secure them?

Thanks in advance!


Nunciata Nunciata
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  • Posted on: 28/6 23:07
Re: Helping my betta. In a bowl.... #28
The seachem prime is an excellent suggestion. I’ll give it a shot. Thank you!

I’m sure you’ll hear more from me as I work my way through cycling my tank. I’m just so excited for him to get to experience his new digs!


Fishlady Fishlady
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  • Posted on: 28/6 21:43
Re: Newbie fishless cycling #29
You need to keep dosing ammonia every time it drops to close to 0 until you get to the stage where both ammonia and nitrite are 0 24 hours after a dose. Nitrate will rise very high, it won't ever fall as it's the end product of the cycle and is removed by regular partial water changes. Once you have 0 ammonia and 0 nitrites, 24 hours after a dose of ammonia, you can do a large water change to reduce nitrate and get your fish. Don't wait unless you continue dosing ammonia, as with no ammonia source the beneficial bacteria you've grown in your fishless cycle will starve and die.


China42 China42
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  • Posted on: 28/6 16:09
Re: Newbie fishless cycling #30
After 3 doses of household Ammonia (10%) over 10 days, I now have Ammonia @ 0.25 ppm, Nitrate at 2.00 ppm and Nitrate @ 80+ ppm. I now intend to stop dosing and wait for Ammonia and Nitrite to drop to zero, with Nitrate down to under 20 ppm, before introducing first fish. I am using API master test kit for water chemistry.

How long should I be showing zero Amm & Nitrite before I introduce fish? First fish are going to be 4 Otocinclus.

Does this all sound right?

Thanks in advance for your help



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