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Shubunkin72 Shubunkin72
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  • Posted on: 21/2/2018 16:36
Re: Feeding new fish...or trying to! #21
I tried that, but they're a little slow...or possibly shortsighted, and it takes them a while to see the food. It can drop right in front of them and they'll swim past it or look in the other direction. So by the time they've found it and are on their way, my bigger shub has zoomed over there and bagged that too! He's gone into crazy eating mode...seems to think I've put the other two in there just to starve him, lol...he hasn't stopped eating all day, I'm worried he'll pop! But at this rate he'll finish off my plants in a week and my tank is pretty well planted...hopefully he'll get used to them and calm down a bit.
I did manage to feed one a couple of hours ago and he saw and went psycho fish...he's normally so docile! I had to put some broccoli in to calm him down, but now he's just chomping on that non-stop, which isn't really helping. He's never been aggressive before...but he's been on his own for about five months now and is obviously anxious about sharing his food.
Thank you though...I guess I'll just have to wait it out and hope he relaxes a bit :)


Shubunkin72 Shubunkin72
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  • Posted on: 21/2/2018 9:45
Feeding new fish...or trying to! #22
Hi, I've recently put two new fish (a 2" shubunkin and a 1.5" sarasa comet) in with my 3" shubunkin. Normally I hand feed him as he's very friendly and that way I can monitor how much he's eating. He's so used to being given the same number of pellets that he swims off and ignores any others that I've sometimes dropped in accidently. I then just remove them and he goes back to sifting through the gravel and munching on the plants.
With these new additions he's suddenly only interested in eating...everything and all the time, lol. I put broccoli in the tank every couple of days and he loves it, but doesn't spend all day with it...just comes and goes. Now he's there constantly and doesn't seem to want to share. And if the other go near his peas he goes crazy, lol. And when I feed him his pellets (or bloodworm, daphnia etc) he stays and won't let the other two anywhere near them. I've tried all sorts of things to distract him, but he gets there first and bumps the others out if the way.
Any ideas as to how to get him to share? I know the other two won't starve as it's a well planted tank...but I want them to have some protein too, and also to get used to being hand fed. They all get on extremely well, which is great, but I've never had this problem before with my tropicals...but then goldfish are quirky, which is probably why they're so much fun 😊


Shubunkin72 Shubunkin72
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  • Posted on: 31/1/2018 18:35
Re: Sick fish...please help! #23
Hi, I'm very sorry about your sick fish...has she shown any improvement at all? I will say that a 12 litre tank is very small for a goldfish and even if the medication improves her condition you will face other issues soon enough. When I moved my shubunkin indoors for winter I was worried about the size of the tank, when someone suggested a large storage box. I bought a 110 litre one for ?7, added a gravel base, quite a few plants, a heater (set to 18C) as my house gets very cold in the winter, and added the filter and light from the tank I already had...and he loved it. It may not look as pretty as an expensive tank, but your fish will really appreciate it.
I've moved him now into a 200 litre tank, but I really liked the storage box tank.

I'm hoping the ich clears up, and I'm sure with a bigger water volume and more space to swim about your fish will recover from the lethargy and red streaks.
Good luck.


Shubunkin72 Shubunkin72
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  • Posted on: 15/1/2018 13:01
Moving and installing a large tank... #24
Hi guys, I'm in the process of building a new pond, but have decided to have a couple of my fish indoors...at least for a year or two. My problem is that I want to buy a new tank that is 5ft long and comes with a cabinet. The delivery option is kerbside only...and I have no idea how I'm supposed to move a tank that is bigger than me down a flight of steps and into my house without a team of big burly men...which sadly I don't have 🙁
Does anyone know of any companies that offer an installation option? I'd be happy to pay extra for the service...but I can't find anyone that offers it. I'd hate to buy the tank and then it just sits outside whilst I find people to help me...it wouldn't last ten minutes with the kids in my neighbourhood! I may just have to stick with the pond as I can do most of that myself, but the option would be nice.
Also, just wondering if anyone could let me know approximately how much extra they spend each year on water (I like to do a 20-30% water change each week) and electricity for a 400L coldwater tank? Sorry if that's a stupid question, but I always like to be prepared,
Thank you ☺


Shubunkin72 Shubunkin72
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  • Posted on: 12/1/2018 13:02
Re: Sick fish...please help! #25
Hi, thank you for the reply and the kind words and understanding. I do have a filter...and this morning I noticed it has started humming, I have tinnitus so difficult for me to hear things over that, so I'm wondering if it's been humming for some time now and it's that causing the problems...as odd as it may sound, I'm sure fish can get headaches too from annoying sounds and vibrations. Sooo...going to see if I can fix that or get a new one asap. I turned it off for a bit whilst having a look at it and after about thirty minutes he's actually perked up a little, so maybe I've found the cause, although the seizures still seem a bit odd. I'll also check the water company too, good advice, thank you. I tried to look in his mouth to see if he's swallowed some gravel, but he's so small it's difficult to see, but it looked clear as far as I could see...and when he eats peas (which he loves) I can always see a huge lump of pea in his mouth :)
And, after a quick shift around of my furniture, I'm going to make him an indoor pond until he can go back outside. For a ?2.95 fish, he's had about ?500 spent on him so far, and about another ?1000 for the new pond...but he's worth it :) Thanks again!


Shubunkin72 Shubunkin72
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  • Posted on: 11/1/2018 15:31
Sick fish...please help! #26
Hi, I have a 3 inch shubunkin that I bought indoors for the winter. I am building a larger pond this year (2000 Litres), but currently only have a small pond that is quite shallow, hence the reason he has come indoors.
He is currently housed in a 110 litre tank with quite a few plants. I check the water quality a few times each week using Pondlab test kit, and everything is exactly as it should be. I recently bought a new ph kit as I thought that may be an issue...but that is fine too. I check the temperature and make sure that the weekly water changes of 25% are at the same temp, and use tapsafe or freshstart. As far as I can tell this is NOT a water quality issue.
My shubunkin started flashing about a month ago (I bought him indoors at the beginning of November), I added a general fish tonic as there were no visible signs, but it didn't stop. I later tried 0.1% aquarium salt with a fish health booster, and he seemed fine after that. About two weeks ago he started...well, I can only describe it as spluttering and having a seizure. He seems to stop breathing afterwards and drops to the bottom, then he'll start flipping about about again and then starts breathing again. After hours of looking online it seemed it may be internal parasites or gill flukes, so I've been adding an anti parasite medication (Waterlife)...I'm on the final treatment today and he is so lethargic, hasn't eaten for three days and has spasms every half an hour or so. He tries to eat, but can't seem to keep it in, it just comes straight out again.
This fish means the world to me...can anyone help? I know that everyone will start talking about ammonia and nitrates, nitrites etc...but believe me, I've tested the water constantly and it's always good. I've tried 50% water changes and it seems to make him worse.
Thank you for reading...I'm so incredibly worried about him.

Sorry, should have added...no physical signs of anything. No red streaks, sores, fungal growths, worms or...anything. He looks fine, but is very unhappy right now, clamped fins and his seizures. I've tried everything...and feel a bit lost now!


Shubunkin72 Shubunkin72
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  • Posted on: 26/10/2017 10:12
Re: Advice about my shubunkin #27
Thank you, I hadn't even thought of that.. great idea :) Thank you.


Shubunkin72 Shubunkin72
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  • Posted on: 26/10/2017 0:50
Advice about my shubunkin #28
Hi, I currently have a shubunkin (about 3 inches long) in an 80L pond. He did have a friend, but he sadly died. I'm getting a new 1000L pond in the spring which I'd like to be ready by the summer. My issue is that the 80L pond seems to be prone to dramatic temperature changes and as it's coming up to winter I'm worried that he'll be affected by the cold...and once spring arrives he'll be too hot. I have a 30L nano aquarium that I bought to make a fish tower for the new pond. Would he be ok if I housed him in there for about 6 months until the new pond is ready? I know it's way too small for goldfish...but as it will only be a temporary home will it be better than the fluctuating temperatures at the moment? Or will he be better off where he is? Sorry...I've only kept tropical fish in the past so I'm worried I'll hurt him if I do something wrong.



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