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fcmf fcmf
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  • Posted on: 25/5 23:14
Re: Losing platy one at a time and more frequently #11
Sorry to read this albeit not surprised.

I wouldn't get your hopes up with this remaining platy but, to help stimulate appetite, you could pre-soak food in garlic - that may make a difference if you haven't already tried that.

Continue to monitor the two in the main tank as you say.

This may be the last thing on your mind but don't be tempted to buy any more fish until there's a considerable period of time of all being settled and no problems at all - at the very least, a month of the tank being problem-free.


Fishyfishfish Fishyfishfish
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  • Posted on: 25/5 20:16
Re: Losing platy one at a time and more frequently #12
Thanks for your insight fcmf.

I’ve come to realise just how difficult diagnosing these issues can be, particularly when there are no obvious signs.

You are right in that she was at the end, I put her in some clove oil, though she wasn’t moving at all by that point so it’s hard to tell if she was still alive, but I wanted her pain to end one way or another.

The other platy is still hanging in there miraculously, though it hasn’t eaten in two days so I’m not hopeful of a recovery.

I do believe that there is an element of truth to certain breeds of fish being less hardy though. I have two platy left in the main tank and I am watching them like a hawk.


fcmf fcmf
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  • Posted on: 25/5 18:23
Re: Losing platy one at a time and more frequently #13
Making a diagnosis is indeed extremely difficult. Any illness/condition can manifest itself in different ways and unfold at different rates, in humans and animals.

I still don't and won't know what caused the demise of my elderly fish - whether they were more susceptible to disease by virtue of their age, whether they had the same or different conditions (eg bacterial infections, an internal parasite, or TB) or whether their bodies simply declined due to their age. Even figuring out cause and effect (eg whether a curved spine caused compensatory swimming behaviour which in turn caused the swimbladder to wear out, or an imperceptible malfunctioning swimbladder caused compensatory awkward swimming and in turn a deformed spine) was not clear. The same factors, minus the bodies declining due to old age, will apply in your case. I had 11/12 neon green rasboras dying within 15 months of purchase - many/most developing spinal deformities and becoming emaciated pre-death. These preceded the elderly fishes' deaths. I sought advice from a well-renowned expert at PFK mag - and he agreed about the complexities of diagnosis and said that it might be that my tank had/has TB in it but that only a post-mortem on the fish would be able to definitively reach that conclusion.

In your own case, therefore, I don't think it's possible to figure out what's going on but I agree that you've taken the correct course of action so far. It does sound, sadly, as though your favourite platy is at death's door - and very likely has now have passed away. I do empathise.

I'm reading a lot lately about various species being less hardy now than they used to be, so that may well factor into all of the above.


Fishlady Fishlady
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  • Posted on: 25/5 15:44
Re: Corydoras Identification #14
Looks like Corydoras parallelus


Imfish Imfish
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  • Posted on: 25/5 12:29
Corydoras Identification #15
Hi, would anyone be able to help and identify this Cory for me? I'm struggling to find the actual type by a goggle search?

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Fishyfishfish Fishyfishfish
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  • Posted on: 25/5 10:29
Re: Losing platy one at a time and more frequently #16
Looking at your videos it's difficult to say whether it's the same thing.

My favorite platy has definitely gotten worse as she's now on her side and hardly moving, so I think her time is almost up. Her health has declined rapidly in the last 24 hours, much faster than the original platy that was showing symptoms.

With these two there are no obvious signs of deformity, unlike the previous platy that I posted about, which I eventually ended up having to put to sleep, so I'm not sure we've experienced the same issue/disease. Though saying that, she has started to curve almost rainbow shaped as she lies on the sand, but is that just what happens near death?

I'm also wondering about the 'hardiness' of these platy, and whether they are as strong genetically nowadays as they used to be. My biggest concern though is how they seem to be affected one-by-one, not all at the same time, which indicates to me that there is some kind of disease causing this.


fcmf fcmf
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  • Posted on: 25/5 9:13
Re: Losing platy one at a time and more frequently #17
I'll reply properly later but, in the meantime:
* apologies for lack of clarity / misleading wording - it was more what my fish (that happened to be elderly) were suffering from that made me wonder if yours were suffering from the same, and hopefully the video links I sent might help you work that out;
* might be a stubborn bacterial infection; however, as young and likely able to tolerate meds, no harm in trying out Sterazin too as well as the eSHa 2000 already tried;
* as for fish TB, it's possible but may also be a lot of other factors; only a post-mortem would establish that definitively; will elaborate later and on the shoal of young fish I had, half of whom died of spinal-type problems that developed and emaciation (yet TB is only a possibility) before the elderly fish started dying of this;
* key is to treat with meds that might account for the other possibilities, then, if no success, palliative/hospice-type care unless clearly suffering to the extent that there is no other alternative.


Fishyfishfish Fishyfishfish
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  • Posted on: 25/5 7:34
Re: Losing platy one at a time and more frequently #18
Here's a photo.

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Fishyfishfish Fishyfishfish
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  • Posted on: 25/5 7:32
Re: Losing platy one at a time and more frequently #19
These fish are less than a year old, so it's nothing to do with age.

I hate seeing them suffer like this, there is definitely something wrong and it must be internal. I did a water change and dosed them on waterlife sterazin, but I don't think ultimately it will make any difference.

I will upload a video to try and show what is happening but it's difficult to capture and they don't move much.

Is there a possibility this could be fish tb?


fcmf fcmf
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  • Posted on: 24/5 21:50
Re: Losing platy one at a time and more frequently #20
Is there any possibility of a video of what's happening?

What you're describing sounds quite similar to some of my elderly fish recently. It might be that you're best to keep them in the quarantine tank for isolation purposes, without any medication - but simply for peace, possibly a gentler flow filter and to avoid any contamination to the other fish if there does happen to be something infectious. I kept one fish in an isolation tank recently for a few weeks and he shared it with another who ultimately lived there for two months - essentially it was hospice/palliative care. I tried feeding normal foods but not sure much, if any, was consumed; however, Hikari First Bites was able to be released in the water column via aquascaping tweezers and dispersed around him, and I expect that must have provided sufficient nutrients for the latter one to have survived an additional two months than I'd expected.

I'll also PM you with a link to some video footage of mine so that you can see if there are similarities.



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