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  • Posted on: 22/2/2008 13:42
Planting Suggestions #11
Ok, I've been thinking that my tank could do with a replant.

I'd love to tell you what I have, but I can't remember the names, or most of them :)

My tank is a 69l (ie small) tank with some Cardinal Tetras and some Peppered Corys.

I suppose my first question is, what kind of planting do fish like that prefer? Would they prefer ones that tower up to the surface with big leaves, or would then prefer plants that are of medium to short height and make the bottom of the tank look denser?

Currently I have:

Some Java fern, which is getting a bit out of hand, in a corner. It's now the full height of the tank

Some Vallis, although not much. This is also the full height of the tank

One Amazon Sword, which isn't doing too well

Something else that looks like a small Hosta (land plant)

one clump of some kind of grass

Some very large things that look like Docking Leaf plants. These leaves go up the full height of the tank and then kind of bend over when they reach the top

Some duckweed lemna minor, which grows like wildfire as it's a floater.


So really I'd like something that's easy to look after, gives the fish some shelter, leaves a lot of swimming space, and is easy ish to look after.

I don't have a CO2 system, and so far haven't needed one. I use a liquid feed and the planrs seem to be happy enough.

I plan on buying them from Dobbies because the ones I've bought from eBay have struggled to establish themselves due to lack of root balls.
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  • Posted on: 21/2/2008 19:13
Re: Too Much Food #12
CountViffer, you are a genius! I've rotated the spray bar so it sprays the glass, not the water, and no current at all!! Means I can turn the filter right up!

Perfect. I've just fed them fish, and the granules hadn't even started sinking by the time I left the room :)

Well done :)
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  • Posted on: 21/2/2008 8:02
Re: Too Much Food #13
Now there's some good ideas :)

Hadn't thought of any of those, the most obvious being turn the filter off :)

I had thought of drilling more holes in the bar, to drop the pressure and thus the power of each jet, but maybe blocking some of them would lessen the overall effect on the tank, which would also be good.

I think I'll try pointing the spraybar at the glass first, that would make the most sense because it won't lower the effect of the filter. If that doesn't work, I'll try all the rest.

If none of that works, I'll film it and post it.

Thanks again folks, you've given me some hope.
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  • Posted on: 20/2/2008 20:03
Re: Too Much Food #14
Sadly due to the size of the tank, the spray bar is almost the full length of the tank, so putting it at the back of the tank won't work, it'll only fit lengthwise, and I don't want to cut it, in case it doesn't make any difference, as then I'd have wasted a brand new spray bar :(

I've tried pointing it up, and down, and it still seems to be causing a lot of current.

Maybe I'm expecting something I can't have. With the spray bar, the water is getting stirred up until it almost reaches the bottom. I assume that's too much.

When the filter was on without the spray bar, food put in the water would get pushed round, reaching almost the filter end of the tank (ie the other end from where it was put in) by the time it got to the bottom, which was pretty quick
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  • Posted on: 20/2/2008 19:30
Re: Too Much Food #15
Not sure whether I should start a new thread for this, but I'm at my wits end :(

From many posts, I have been complaining that my filter seems to be creating too much current, which makes any food I put in get whisked around and then sink far too quickly.

This is causing the fish to not get as much food as they should, and too much ending up on the bottom, which is feeding my ever growing snail population.....

So I got a spray bar for my filter, and if anything, it has made it worse :( All it's basically done is change the direction of the current.

I have a 69l tank, with a Fluval 2+ internal filter. Before I put the spray bar on, the filter was on about half power, which was causing a lot of current at the upper layers of the tank. However, to get similar currents with the spray bar, I've had to turn the filter right down to its lowest setting!

What can I do? I can't imagine I'm the first person to have this problem in their tank. Should the spray bar be above or below the water line?
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  • Posted on: 20/2/2008 9:43
Re: Filters - External Vs Internal #16
Cool, if simply putting the old media in the new filter does the job (would make sense that it would) then that's the way to do it.

As for the air stone, think I'll just leave it as is and see how things go.
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  • Posted on: 20/2/2008 9:26
Re: Too Much Food #17
That's what I've been doing so far, but I still seem to be leaving enough for the snails to enjoy......
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  • Posted on: 20/2/2008 8:55
Re: Filters - External Vs Internal #18
Ok actually more questions :)

bluegourami, did your Tetratec filter come with a UK plug or was it a European plug with an adapter? One of the reviews on the ZooPlus website said it came with a Eurpoean plug....


Secondly, to anyone who knows....

At the moment I have an air stone in the corner of the tank to ensure the water is more oxygenated. However, because I'm about to fit a spray bar, I'm assuming that in itself will oxygenate the water more than the filter on its own.

Should I keep the air stone going? Could it be doing any harm to the tank? It's heavily planted already, so don't know if it'd be better to keep it or remove it.
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  • Posted on: 20/2/2008 8:50
Re: Filters - External Vs Internal #19
Actually, one last question. If/When I get the new filter, what is the best method of changing from one to the other, while still ensuring the best biological filtration?
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  • Posted on: 20/2/2008 8:49
Re: Filters - External Vs Internal #20
Thanks for the other link, always good to know there's more than one choice.

If I could, I'd buy one now :) But money is needed elsewhere :(
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