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ianbo ianbo
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  • Posted on: 4/1/2013 18:38
Re: Help! My pond fish keep dying. #11
The filter on ebay did not sell but after looking again it was well used and was a little different to mine, I have saved some info if you want it
A friend of mine has the black box mega filter and really rates it. They are a bit cumbersome and are made out of plastic.But with some planting they can be softened into yur garden.Some have built in uv.Be sure to check specifications out because some have a min flow through as well as a max.These filters are normally sold by specialist pond suppliers so I think you are now looking at better filters

The filter I suggested are similar to the one 2010 showed you but are smaller, the 4000 is 3 ft in length and the 2500 about 18 inch square and both made out of fibergass. these filters are a bit better made and come in green but they cost more.

when you got your last set up under way did you stop feeding.if not this can be a problem as it takes time for the bacteria to establish

The filters you are looking at will allow you to keep larger stocks,probably twice the 107 cm you mentioned before


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  • Posted on: 4/1/2013 18:09
Re: Help! My pond fish keep dying. #12
the fishmate pressurised containers are a completely different type of filter.They must not be confused with box filters.Fishmate sell the filter and pump as a kit yours is 15000 ps with a maximum fiow through of 7500 l/per hour.The correct pump is a fishmate 9000 l/per hour. seems excessive i know. I have rang fishmate for info in the past.They informed me that you will lose 10% by pumping 1 mtr to the filter this will reduce flow to 8000.Because the unit is pressurised the amount exiting the filer will be half reducing flow to 4000.This means you are at circulation of twice per hour.The pump has an adjustable flow which will allow you to reduce it further if you want.At no time should you be getting bad filteration because you have not exceeded the maximum flow of 7500 l/per hour

The cheapest price for this pump is ?143. The downside is that it is not a true solids handling pump,it is advised by fishmate to reach solids handeling of 6mm that you cut some of the ribbing on the cage away.This area is only about 1/8 of a solids pump.Imagine the pumps 2010 showed you, the central section of the water feature pump only is removed.The pump will be ok but is not like the solids one.

Circulating the water more should not cause great problems. It you are unsure ring fishmate helpline on 01932700000 they are quite helpful.

It leaves you with the decision, do you spend more on the other set, i suggested it does work a lot better.


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  • Posted on: 31/12/2012 23:42
Re: Help! My pond fish keep dying. #13
Hi I have just looked on ebay ther is a Kockney koi multibay filter for sale with 25 watt uv this is the same as mine there is about ?400 of kit there it is at wakefield starting bid of ?90 it would be great for your pond if it is good condition


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  • Posted on: 31/12/2012 23:06
Re: Help! My pond fish keep dying. #14
rogh costs for a good set would be
cockney koi multi chamber 4000 model filter ?300
Force hybrid 5000 solids handling pump ?100
36 watt uv approx ? 80
piping approx ? 30

approx total ?510


This is for new good quality filteration that should be fine for your pond. The smaller filer would still be ok because I have that would mean that I have scaled everything by half of my pond which is 4500 liters. This smaller filter which would still be adequate would reduce the cost by approx ?150, but as you said it makes sense to go for larger on flteration if possible.

If these set up costs are more than you wish to spend I can advise you how to match the fishmate filter properly as I also have the correct fishmate combintation myself,but I dont want to cause any more confusion at the moment.I think you need to see if the gravity fed box systems are to your liking fist
Good luck and let me know your thoughts


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  • Posted on: 31/12/2012 14:46
Re: Help! My pond fish keep dying. #15
The manufacter will state the max the flow rate. this is the max amount of water you can put through it. if you exceed this it does not work correctly and you could flood.
if you want to keep koi then I ciculate my pond once per hour but a bit eiter side is ok as long as your filter can cope
the cockney koi mulichamber filters are good and cost about
2500 model ?150
4000 moddel &300


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  • Posted on: 31/12/2012 0:42
Re: treating koi whilst orfe in same pond #16
thanks 2010 I was told once that if a fish in my pond was suffering from parasites it would be more than probable that all the fish would have at least some parasites .do you think this is true? I dont seen to have the same issues with fish health anymore,as I have good fileraion and better unerstanding of water quality


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  • Posted on: 31/12/2012 0:32
Re: Help! My pond fish keep dying. #17
When I say capacity i should of said total volume of pond water but as 2010 said if you are not intending keeping koi then your fileration can be a bit smaller as there will be less waste produced. the small kockney koi fiberglass one would be ok also the blagdon force hybrid punp comes with a ball valve which means the water fow rate is adjustable and it is a good punp for handling solids.The only thing to bear in mind is that most of us fish keepers start wanting bigger and better fish in our ponds as the hobby gets hold of us.This is why I suggested to go for a filter capable of filering more than the volume of your pond.the better the filer the more fish stock you can keep. It all depends on how much you want to invest in your set up. do you think you will want to put koi in?


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  • Posted on: 29/12/2012 23:39
Re: Help! My pond fish keep dying. #18
I have just looked on the cockney koi/yamitsu website. I have a 4500 liter pond and I have a kockney koi/yamitsu kf 4000 filter and a blagdon force hybrid 1000 l/per hr pump I have 3 90 degree elbows in the pipework to neaten things and a 110 watt kockney koi/yamitsu uv. By the time the water is exiting the filter it is 3000 l/per hour which is the maximum for the filter. I also have cascade waterfall feature and i had a spare fishmate set up which I put before the waterfall for a bit of extra filteration.So I have 2 pumps and filters on the go . The kocney koi far outprforms the fishmate.
I would suggest that you go for the cockney koi and scale it to the size for your pond the kf 2500n should be fine and force hybid 5000 possibly a 36 watt uv(check the flowrate first). if you want to spend more the 4000 will do no even better.or if you dont want to invest as much I can advise on the correct pump for the fishmate as I have this set up also


ianbo ianbo
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  • Posted on: 29/12/2012 22:31
Re: treating koi whilst orfe in same pond #19
Yes I completly agree I have filteration at approx three times above recommended and uv x5 and I also keep my ph at 7.5 and dont let it go below 7 for any period of time so everything seems to look after itself. I also have sick fish screeened for parasites as sooon as there is a problem.I have not had a sick fish for 2 years and it is three years since I lost one. I think the seller was trying to be responable . maybee sometimes you just have to bite the bullet. I dont want to get rid of the orfe they look great especially the blue and I dont think I can do much more. Thanks for responding.


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  • Posted on: 29/12/2012 21:28
Re: Help! My pond fish keep dying. #20
I would always select your filter first.I would buy one with twice the filter capacity of your pond.If you do not exceed the capacity of your filer then you can circlate the water more often if you want twice per hour if you want but I think once per hour is fine.
I have found the multibay Kokney koi great the smallest square one should be ok for your pond have a look on their website.then select a pump to circulate your pond 1.5 times the volume of your pond. By the time you hve pumped the water up and it has gone through a uv you will have lost about 30 % of the plow rate.You con also put a ball valve in if the fow rate is too fast these are also on the same website



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