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mrschristmas mrschristmas
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  • Posted on: 15/10 17:29
Re: Fishless cycling or Pure bacteria balls #21
Thanks, that's helpful. I did wonder if it was a sales ploy - but then the balls are cheaper than the ammonia and testing stuff!! But I will stick to that method.


fcmf fcmf
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  • Posted on: 15/10 15:11
Re: Fishless cycling or Pure bacteria balls #22
The products which claim to curtail the cycling process do not (yet) have great evidence for effectiveness - a couple of them may have the correct nitrifying bacteria and thus are more likely to work than others but only if the correct procedure/instructions have been followed during the process from manufacture to use, which of course cannot be ascertained. In rare cases, they may work; in most cases, they'll make no difference, be a waste of money, and potentially cause confusion about where in the cycling process you are (and may thereby even prolong the cycling process).

Those in local aquatic/fish shops are trained to sell such products, as well as a whole host of other products to counteract the effects of incomplete cycles or ammonia/nitrite presence and high nitrates, medications for sick fish, and new stock to replace those which succumb.

The fishless cycling method using ammonia is the 'tried and tested' method proven to work, and, as yet, no product has been identified to compare to its effectiveness.


mrschristmas mrschristmas
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  • Posted on: 15/10 13:25
Fishless cycling or Pure bacteria balls #23
I went to my local aquatic centre to make some enquires before I start my tank set up.

I was talking to them about starting the cycling with some ammonia, and they were very surprised that people still recommend this way of doing it; and suggested the Pure bacteria balls.

Are the bacteria balls safe and thorough? It certainly seems a much easier process than the cycling - and reduces user error, but obviously I will do whatever is the best option.


Candle321 Candle321
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  • Posted on: 14/10 20:38
Re: Accidental tank acquisition #24
Oops, upside down! Rookie here haha


Candle321 Candle321
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  • Posted on: 14/10 20:38
Re: Accidental tank acquisition #25
Trying pics!

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Candle321 Candle321
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  • Posted on: 14/10 20:01
Re: Accidental tank acquisition #26
Quick update - a month in and tank parameters are just about ideal for our stock.

I won't bore you with the detail but no mini cycle, hardness suiting and by heck are these loaches growing!

Absolutely religious daily water changes, daily strip testing and twice weekly master testing, this beaut of a tank has remained stable. We have also used RO to reduce hardness to 10. I'm paraphrasing here as hubby does the RO and hardness parameters, I'm not really sure, I just do as I'm told with how many litres of RO and tap to add.

We have used Seachem Prime, Stability and Matrix, I suspect these have helped hugely.

This is our accidental beginner tank and I'm so pleased we have managed to give these guys a good environment to enjoy life.

Next step is a few extra souls, shall keep you updated! Oh and starting a shrimp tank too, a whole new thread/subject.

I will also try and add photos!


Fishlady Fishlady
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  • Posted on: 14/10 17:16


Ruby8125 Ruby8125
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  • Posted on: 14/10 13:14
Air pump help #28
Hi there. I want to get an air pump to run a small single sponge filter in a 24L (which I think is just over 5 Gallons) tank as a Spare tank I have tried to look up what I need but it all gets really confusing. I know it’s a small tank so tempted to go for mini ones or the smallest ones but wanna make sure it’s strong enough to run the sponge filter. Does anyone have any recommendations. A quiet one would be good too. Thanks


Fishlady Fishlady
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  • Posted on: 14/10 8:55
Re: Algae #29
Bristlenose tend to eat very little algae once they start to grow. The algae is harmless, but if you find it unsightly you can clean it off with a toothbrush. Reducing the amount of time your lights are on may reduce it.


Fishlady Fishlady
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  • Posted on: 14/10 8:53
Re: Fishless cycle is just not working, guidance needed.... #30
I'm sorry my help was ineffective in this case. I really can't think why this cycle failed. For the next attempt, you may want to try one of the apparently more reliable bottled bacteria products such as Dr. Tim's One and Only. Good luck on the next try.



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