hello im just wanting to say HOORAH!!!!my aquarium has cycled and i havent lost any more fish.nitrires 0. have been for two days.my nitrates are about 30 is that ok.thanks for all your advise.

About a month ago Hubby decided he wanted a fish tank for his birthday - after a lot of yelling and "don't expect me to clean it/feed them etc etc" conversations I finally caved. I'm an idiot - we had the same conversation about the dog - 20 years and two dogs later I'm still taking it out, cleaning up poop and sick, taking it to the vet etc etc.

Today he insisted we go buy the tank... despite the fact that it's not his birthday for another six weeks, well after spending the grand sum of £122 on a 60 litre tank, gravel, ornaments etc, spending a good two hours making sure where we are putting it is sturdy, filling it up, putting in the gizmos and arranging the ornaments we now have a fishless tank.

no chemicals in it yet - don't have a testing kit - that's another £25 to fork out...

I'm peeved... can you tell? I must say it looks very nice in the corner with it's light on, but it's clean at the moment.

oh and to make space for this marvel he's shifted a load of stuff which is now heaped in an untidy pile in the middle of the rug in the front room waiting for muggins here to clear up.

grrrr these piggin' fish better be worth it!!

After cutting my teeth, making mistakes, and coming to grips with the hobby that is fish keeping (and catching MTS from the more avid fish keepers on here) I have secured for myself a 180l tank for our dining room, and a 95l tank for my girlfriend's university house.

And so it begins...

The plan is to have my army of Tetras in a Walstad inspired set up in the 180l tank and a betta home in the 95l hexagonal tank.

The first day so far has consisted of cleaning and de-watermarking the tanks as well as filling them up for a comprehensive leak test.

Then the hunt is on for a suitable external filter with built in heater for the 180l. The 95l will be inheriting the Fluval 4 Plus from the larger tank as the filter that came with it is tiny.

Many questions to come, many ideas to try out. Watch this space ;)

Well one month after the introduction of 8 tiny cherry barbs, I am starting to feel like a proper fish keeper.

They have all grown, spawn regularly and simply love chasing live brineshrimp around the tank or eating flakes while I hold them under water.

The hair algae has been driving me insane but using my new shiny magnet scraper, a toothbrush, a nailbrush, lots of elbow grease, every other day doses of plant food and flourish and phases of CO2, it (touch wood) seems to be mostly under control.

Thanks to everyone for their helpful tips.

Unfortunately a side effect of this has been about a million little ramshorn snails. My one big snail (sidney) dissappeared and the 6 zebra ramshorn snails prefer trying to climb out of the tank and are very uninterested in anything green. I've only been able to find 5 for the last 10 days so I think 1 has been successful.

It appears sidney had babies before his vanishing act. So the time came to do something about them, hoping they weren't the solution to the algae problem rather than just a symptom of it.

I got a nice clean shiny shot glass, put it in the tank and began picking them off and dropping them in. All was going well. I moved the glass to another part of the tank to continue. The outflow from the filter, caught the glass and created an swirly current which sent about 40 tiny snails off to the safety of the gravel!

So starting again, I began picking off snails from the plants, being very very careful not to lose anymore and when I had about 30, I tipped them out into a bigger glass on the side.

This was all going very well and I could move the shot glass around the tank without any escapees. However, regular readers will probably be able to make accurate predictions over the next events. About 4 shot glass loads in, my beautiful attention seeking cat decided she'd like to play too. Several attempts to discourrage her later (including 'here have a pouch of food even though it's not dinnertime' and throwing her outside) and she was not being dissuaded. The entire glass went crashing to the kitchen floor (miraculously not breaking) and sent over 100 snails all over me and the kitchen floor.

I began again, (this time with the cat locked in the bathroom) collected as many of those on the floor/my feet as possible and carried on with my shot glass. I used cling film and an elastic band to keep them in the glass.






When I'd had enough, I took them round the corner to the local stream and let them go free. All seems like a great plan until you factor in, it was raining, slippy and covered in stinging nettles. Tipping them into the stream didn't work as they all hung onto the glass so I knelt on the concrete retaining wall, reaching down to the water very carefully. It took about 5 attempts of rinsing/swirling and having to pick them out of the glass by hand. By now the rain was really coming down (slight drizzle when I left) and getting up off the concrete was rather tricky while holding a glass. I ended up with 1 foot in the stream, 1 hand in the stinging nettles, both knees covered in mud and utterly soaked through!

Next time, I'll try a plastic bag. Got to be easier than a breakable glass if I can turn it inside out to dump them and put that hand down too.

Firstly a huge thank you to everyone who has given the much needed advice to help me get this far. Keep it coming, I need every bit of it.

Secondly an even bigger thank you to all those who provided moral support when it seemed to be going badly. I don't know if I could have kept it up this long without your kind words.

I hope you all approve.












Apologies to all those who were after another funny water change story. 3rd time lucky and undramatically the cat and I both remained dry. There is still some algae left but it's virtually disappeared from the gigantic blanket covering everything as it was and it's a nice healthy green snack for the new additions.

Ammonia 0
Nitrite 0
Nitrate 5 - 10
pH 7.0

I haven't done this in AGES (sorry to my devoted followers) because I've been snowed under with final push at writing reports but in major news as of day 32

my tank has completed its fishless cycle!!

I've been lovingly keeping it topped up with Ammonia 3 ml a day which disappears with the nitrites in 24 hours.

I've had my dad's water tested and it possesses nothing strange. The KH was 12 but the GH changed colour with the first drop so I'm guessing my soft/hard water mix idea would work without the KH dropping low enough to destablise the PH.

I've ordered a new double T5 starter/controller unit (as have finally decided plant problems are light related) and blue led light as recommended by violet although typing this have realised forgot to order the plug bit to go with it! d'oh!

My ph has stayed nice and stable since the removal of the CO2 but I now have a serious algae problem. Brown stuff is covering everything and I'm developing an 'attractive' green carpet look. I'm hoping this is a lighting thing too, if it doesn't clear up within a week - 10 days after the new lights, I'll order a phosphate test kit and get some of that stuff to squeeze into the filter.

I've been playing around with the tank quite a bit so looks quite different and need to upload new pics but it looks such a mess with the algae, I'm ashamed to.

Next steps

1) Undertake a water change or 3 to get the nitrates down to an acceptable level. (watch this space for more water change sagas)

2) Buy big water transporting bottles from LFS

3) Install new lights

4) Silicone the foil inside the lid. Sellotape has gone all manky.

5) Get cable tidy clips to sort out wires behind the tank.

6) Clear around sides of tank from accumulated boxes of new stuff and put somewhere for safekeeping.

7) Clean off algae and take pictures

8) Decide on fish

I've been shopping today. I've bought a little coconut cave with java fern on it, more vallis (it will gro dammit!) some tiny duckweed-like substrate level plant, a mini shipwreak, 3 packs of airline clips (Thanks Critch ) and a 2nd filter (Fluval U2) which was on special offer. I also took back the light I bought the day before my hood arrived.

Then I went to Maplin and bought a surge protector extension lead which stands up so will look tidier and a 24 hour clockwork timer.

Next I've got my eye on some of those blue LED strip lights mentioned in one of the forums.

In other news, yesterday I attempted my second water change. My dad, a trained plumber, has given me lots of siphoning advice and I've completed my shopping list, so I got up early raring to get it done before I had to leave for work at 12.

Mistake 1

I got up and had a shower (I'm sure those 'old hands' could have got away with this, but really it was tempting fate for me)


Mistake 2

Couldn't get the siphon to work even with my new siphon pump so I resorted to my dad'd method of dunk the pipe into the tank, put thumb over one end, lower that end into bucket/sink and release. I couldn't get my thumb to completely cover the hole

With that not working, I decided to use the little gadget that came with the symphon pump. I attached it to the hose, sank it under the water, turned the gadget to off, moved the end into the sink and then turned the gadget to on. The water started to siphon into the nicely sink and the gadget's surprise sprinkler feature sprayed water all over the garden my kitchen.

Once the water was out of the tank, I set about getting new water back in. Again I went with my dad's siphoning plan and had prepared my water (warmed to the correct temp) before hand. Daddy said to raise the box slightly higher than the tank.

Mistake 3

My kitchen step which I was planning to use to raise the box above tank level was too high, and pre-empting disaster (of tipping the water all over myself because I couldn't see into the box) I decided to rest the box on top of an upturned washing up bowl. 4 attempts to get the siphon going later, there is some level of success. I decide I'm doing well enough to get dressed for work. I'm back in front of the tank within 2 minutes, I open the window and stick the kettle on. In comes the cat who has never seen an upturned washing up bowl with a box on top of it before. She decides it looks like a giant play thing and not having learned anything herself after last time manages to tip the entire lot over herself, me (ready for work me no less! ) the floor and the kitchen worktop.

At least I didn't kill any plants or uproot the air curtain this time, but that might be because I didn't hoover the gravel.

So 2010 gets off to a totally rubbish start with a complete aquarium disaster of epic proportions.
Of my nicely stocked tropical aquarium the survivors are limited to single figures.
I guess the important thing is to learn from this (never NEVER trust ANYONE to do what they say they will!) ((Even if you specifically phone them to remind them!!!)) and instead either do it yourself or place your trust in fully automated control systems! Lessons have been learned and procedures have been reviewed and updated and stern tellings off issued to the stupid. (Guess that would be me then for allowing them to stuff it up in the first place.)
I need some encouraging words from fellow fish friends and suggestions on species for the re-stock.
I've completely re-landscaped (aquascaped?!) the aquarium and put in some new planting. The few who survived the apocalyptic episode seem to be enjoying their new terrain and were decided frisky this morning.

Saz - feeling slightly morose and still stuck at work

Hi All Fish Fans

Just a quick question in my 60 litre i have a stingray 15 filter which is not working to its best despite me cleaning every part of it. My question is can i just put a new filter in the tank including new media or does it need to mature first the tank as been set up for about 8 months. Any feed back would be great.

Many thanks

Kermit