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22/07/2009
Triops, part 2... still no triops
Category: Coldwater

Author: EagleC (6:50 pm)
I put the adding of triops on hold as I wanted to run some chemistry experiments on the tank first. Results on those still to follow but I've done a few water changes and the water is now clear.

I have found that the exceptionally soft water required for the triops is resulting in difficult keeping the PH from crashing. With the additional chemical activity of the plants and the ammonia starting a cycle the ph drops low, the cycle stalls and it all goes pete tong. Lucky this is all being discovered before adding the triops. To counter this I have chosen to increase the KH and TDS of the tank a little. I am now holding a PH of 6.4 - 6.6 and a TDS of close to 200.

To answer a couple of questions posed on the last blog entry,

1. I have some egg cysts left over from a couple of years ago, I know they are good at surviving drought (~sp.) but do you think they would still be viable?
Triop eggs are amazingly resilient and can be viable after decades. It will depend on how they've been kept, hopefully dry and cool. The only way to know is to try it out.

2. How big do they get?
That depends on the particular species of Triop. I've been told Triops inhabit every continent and climate, the largest being the european (Triops cancriformis) and grow to over 4" plus tail. The UK has triops however they are an endangered species so collecting from the wild is a definite no-no. Normally the ones you get in kits are from one of a few species that grow to around 2" (plus tail). Once you learn the species names ebay makes it easy to get the ones you're after.


I promise there will be triops in the next instalment of this triop blog!
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EagleC
Posted: 22/7/2009 18:56  Updated: 22/7/2009 18:56
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 PS....
If anyone is interested in learning about the British Triop I found this : http://www.ukbap.org.uk/UKPlans.aspx?ID=617
Lynda
Posted: 6/8/2009 11:00  Updated: 6/8/2009 11:00
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 Re: PS....
How do you plan to handle there life cycle? my understanding of it is that the eggs hatch better if they have been dryed.
EagleC
Posted: 6/8/2009 14:38  Updated: 6/8/2009 14:38
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 Re: PS....
Yes, this may be an issue. I hope to be able to lower the water level significantly, scoop out some sand, dry it out and add it back a few weeks later. Provided the sand scooped out has eggs in they should hatch.
Since my last post I have added the eggs from the original kit, none hatched. I suspect this is either because the TDS was a little on the high side or there where no viable eggs in the sachet of dirt. I certainly didn't see any but I'm not sure how big they are...

I'm going to get some more eggs and try again.
kevin
Posted: 12/8/2009 15:32  Updated: 12/8/2009 15:32
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 Re: PS....
oh how interesting.... i have just looked on youtube and ive never seen anything like them! please put up some photos when they hatch.
flappinganimal
Posted: 27/8/2009 14:55  Updated: 27/8/2009 14:55
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 Any triops yet?
How are they coming along?
EagleC
Posted: 27/8/2009 16:01  Updated: 27/8/2009 16:01
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 Re: Any triops yet?
Not good

The eggs from the kit where in with detritus which floated and made a horrible mess of the water at the top of the tank. I couldn't make out any eggs in this bag of crud but I gave it a good shake and added 50%. It was only then that I noticed that I'd failed to cover one of the pumps inlets with the tights. I fixed that and added the rest of the egg bag.

Nothing hatched so I've cleaned it out and ordered some Triops cancriformis (European big ones that like cooler waters) from ebay. Took a while to win an auction at a sensible price. In honesty I've also been distracted getting my V-Max back on the road. It's now all up together, taxed, mot'd and insured so I'm working on the cosmetics.

Hopefully the new eggs should arrive soon but oddly they have to come from the US - no one in Europe appears to be selling them. This time I'm going to hatch them in a jug first then add them to the tank.
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