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Posted on: 6/2/2010 20:41 |
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Spotted this in the blogs, thought it might do better here
 "i have a very aggressive super red bellie pirahana about 8 inch in size now an wont a tank mate for him i know what ur thinkin but he does seem to get rest less an think a mate might help him out an chill him out a bit also does anyone know anything about bush fish as i have a 9inch one an would like to know more about him really thanks for any help chris" Hi Chris and welcome to FK - I'm afraid I know nothing about piranhas but thought I'd post here for you as you are more likely to get a better response here than in the blogs Hopefully someone will be able to give you some advice |
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Posted on: 6/2/2010 21:19 |
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Red Bellied Piranha (Pygocentrus nattereri) are a specialist type of fish best kept to experts in a species tank. To be honest you need a tank of absolute minimum 650litres (150 UK Gallons 6foot x 2foot x 2foot) for Red Bellied Piranha. This is due to their eventual size of 12inches and that they prefer to live in shoals of 6 or more, as this is their natural community living structure. Red bellies live, hunt and feed in shoals in the wild. One on his own will get lonely and suffer due to it. Other fish species are not really a good idea as the Piranha will only see them as lunch even if the other fish are bigger. If your not careful even when you are doing tank maintenance with your hand in the water they will even see your hand as food. Generally Red bellies will feed on live or dead meaty foods. Some people say only live food should be given but this is not so as live fish can introduce disease to the tank if you are not careful. As long as the food is meaty they will be OK. Also water PH should preferably be between 5.8 and 6.8 way below many peoples normal tap water PH so some water buffering is required and can be awkward keeping it stable if not done correctly. They also require the tank to be dimly lit and well planted with large pieces of bogwood as the piranha become timid in bright light and open spaces, leading to health problems due to stress. The filtration will also need to be extremely robust as the waste produced by these fish will be substantial considering their diet. 2 x FX5 type filters fully loaded with hefty filter medium would be minimum. Hope this helps.
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Posted on: 6/2/2010 22:16 |
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Can I hijack this thread a moment please, I have just read Chris' profile and have a few concerns on some of his tank mates, that are as follows:
tank 1 - 80gal 18inch fire eel 2 8 inch red texas cichlid 9inch bush fish 2 3inch jewel cichlid 12 inch Pangasius catfish tank 2 - 30gal 2 baby red oscar 2inch 1 baby albino oscar 2inch 2 tinfoil barbs 3inch 2 coman plec 4 inch tank 3 - 30 gal 8 inch super red bellie piranha lives on his own an needs a mate but just eats anything that i put in with him ( had a go at me a few times) You are going to need to seriously rethink your tanks as many of the fish you have at present are going to seriously overstock the present setups. Fire eels can grow to up to 40" so are specialised. They also require a sand substrate for them to bury themselves during the day as these fish are nocturnal Red Texas Cichlids are not true original fish they are hybrids, usually bred between a red Devil and a texas, so temperament is a bit obscure. But Red devils are capable of aggresion and violence. They can grow up to 12 inches and need a 100 gallon tank. 2 x Oscars (14inch) 1 common plec (24") in one 6x2x2tank 150 Uk Gallon. The 3rd Oscar needs to be separated in another tank with a cichlid of its own stature, again in a minimum 75Gallon tank if on his own. 2 x tinfoil Barbs (14inch) 1 common Plec (24") in another 6x2x2 150 UK Gallon The Pangasisus Catfish grow to 4 feet in length and need a seriously big tank, 300 gallon (10foot x 3foot x 2foot)is the absolute minimum. They will eat every thing else in the tank as they grow. The piranha has been mentioned already in above posts |
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Posted on: 8/2/2010 1:44 |
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hi i understand the tank size problem an have a 5ftx2ftx2ft with a 3ft sum pank an just waiting for the stand an hood for that
an takin two oscars an the barbs to the pet shop i have had the Pangasius catfish for about a year now an he aint grown an i didnt think he would grow to a size of 4ft |
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Posted on: 8/2/2010 19:49 |
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Intrigued, I went a-googling....
That’s one biiiiiig fish (or it will be  ) - see here http://www.seriouslyfish.com/profile. ... ecies=sanitwongsei&id=635A bit upsetting when googling that so many recipes come up for them too  : http://www.mjseafoods.co.uk/index.php ... =com_virtuemart&Itemid=31Seems many UK fish and chip shops sell it as an alternative for cod and haddock now |
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