If you have not got anything positive to input regarding the original question then please keep your 2 pennies to youself. Yet another person with nothing better to do.

As you are probably aware a high volume of captive breeding has led to guppies being extremely tolerant of different parameters, apart from that they are a very hardy fish anyway. I have read all my fish books and guppies are ok in my tank in fact they can live in medium to hard water. I stated that I briefly had a siamese fighter that did not get along with my guppies and he nipped a couple of tails. The guppies tails have now nearly fully grown back!! Obviously this is due to the fact they do not like to live in my tank conditions. As for upgrading I didn't want to upgrade just to get the shark fish best suited as we've not long had the tank but its different now considering we already have the clowns. We are responsible fish keepers who want the best for our fish and to be told to go and look at the animal welfare act is insulting. In my opinion 14" is quite large, and your angels looked not far from fully grown. Also plecos like lots of hiding places which your tank lacks. But thats just my opinion, I was going to keep it to myself but since we're all sharing.

first off how dare you make assumptions about how we treat or view any one of our fish. secondly, taking the clown loach back was in response to being told to re house them, insulting considering nobody on here knows us or our circumstances. we have had the clown loach 2 weeks as new tank so introducing fish slowly. we planned on getting more. we sought advice from numerous sources including local experts who informed us that clown loach very rarely reach 10 inch and that can take 10 yrs...in which time we will have bigger tank. we wouldn't wait till they outgrew tank, 5 inches and they'd be in larger tank. we come on here for advice because we obviously care about welfare of fish. too many people go through these posts looking for something to bitch about. all night i've been forced to defend myself as you all jump down my throat. i'm sure your all perfect. 1 rule for one, different for another. references to fk caresheets been thrown in my face alot tonight, but keeping lrg angel fish with plecos is ok for the fishlady when it clearly states differently on fk caresheets. we have spent over a grand on this setup, plus all test kits etc to ensure they have the best living conditions, all this because we dont care. there just fish.....i haven't implied that once. dont be so ignorant and keen to judge people based on few posts on internet forum!!! SAD

my axies penelope and spyro love sand, they sometimes bury their noses...so cute. i placed pieces of slate around tank aswell, they seem to like it.

i get that , the clown loach is a potential issue which we recognise and accept . the guppies / fighter situation is not potential as it actualised and is now resolved. also guppies and fighters can live in neutral to slightly hard, mine is actually neutral. every fish is unique , some fighter live happily with guppies others dont.

please dont assume everyone on this forum is a beginner, we are just not claiming to be a know all.

you need to read previous post as the betta was returned, no longer in the tank. i stated in previous post the gh kh. oh and the natural habitat for betta is shallow paddies, slow moving streams in thai land. you need to look a little deeper before pushing opinions that weren't relevant or requested.

That clown loach is gorgeous. thanks

hi ghosteye, the rainbow was one of my original thoughts. Think its hit and miss with this one. They all have different personalities. I bought a siamese fighter the other week which was at the lfs with guppies all with perfect tails. Got him (Elvis) home and he was attacking my guppies. Even seperated him in a large fry holder overnight and awoke to found he had jumped back into the main tank. lol. split personality. He had to go back unfortunately. :- (

hi thanks for the advice but was hoping there was a shark like fish i had missed. Didn't really want the red tailed or rainbow due to their territorial traits and keeping other bottom dwellers of similar appearance. Also I intended to buy more neons this weekend. I only add small groups at a time. This tank has not long gone through its cycle, hence only 17 fish in a 350L.
Refering to the clowns I have several books stating my tank is a suitable size for a small group, unfortunately in aquatics a fishkeeper cant do right from wrong as everyone has different opinions. Back to the original question, thanks for the input but may well just leave the shark for now.
thanks