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Re: Its a shame
Posted on: Ystrday 11:24
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Yes, it's a shame it's gone so quiet on here, I miss the way FK used to be. We had a great little community, and I used to enjoy some of the discussions - anyone remember the Twelve Days of Fishmas? Facebook is great in many ways, but it's not where I would go to for advice on fishkeeping or indeed anything else. I would rather go to a forum specialising in the subject.



Re: New tank problem - water has gone murky greenish?
Posted on: Ystrday 11:14
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The tank has a special system apparently involving the ceramic stones and bacteria and such like.


It will still need a fishless cycle to establish the bacterial colonies before it's ready for livestock. To be honest the filtration system in the Biorb tanks is a little outdated and inefficient.



Re: Rearing brine shrimp
Posted on: 26/6/2017 21:53
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Not sure Ive uploaded this right,just wanted to show a picture of my ''shrimp farm'' The biggest ones are nearly full grown now,that light is 6 inches, so you can see they get quite big.

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Re: Its a shame
Posted on: 26/6/2017 11:31
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It's good to hear the visitors are still coming even if we can't see them

I do agree that FB is a bad thing when it comes to advice - the quality of information on the hobby on there is very poor in the main. There are some good people posting , but they're hard to find and because of the rapid turnover of posts they soon disappear into the mire.

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Re: Very Sick Black Moor, Please Help!
Posted on: 24/6/2017 17:39
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Sorry to read about this. A few pointers of potential help, hopefully:
* it's very unlikely that water can be changed too frequently, but well done for moving her to the larger tank as that should help considerably;
* the crucial tests to monitor water quality are ammonia, nitrite and nitrate, so do get yourself an ammonia test ASAP;
* you have a reading for nitrite which should be at 0 (as should ammonia), so more frequent / larger water changes should help reduce that to a non-toxic level and hopefully also reduce the abnormalities you describe;
* goldfish seem particularly subject to depleted oxygen levels in the tank during hotter weather in the summer, so more frequent and larger water changes may make quite a difference to her behaviour;
* for variety's sake, and also just to eliminate constipation as a potential additional reason for her lack of moving around, I'd feed some chopped pea once a week - take the shell off (easier if blanched beforehand in boiling water) and chop each half into small morsels.

Hope this is useful, and will get this fish back on the road to recovery and prevent the other fish from succumbing next.

Best of luck.



Re: New tank problem - water has gone murky greenish?
Posted on: 24/6/2017 17:22
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As james15 has said, a 30-litre tank gives few options in terms of fish - but it could continue to serve its purpose as an aquascaping tank +/- some shrimp or snails.

Check out the "Caresheets" section as per the main menu on this site. You'll see from there and from
http://www.seriouslyfish.com/species/paracheirodon-innesi/ that neon tetras require a tank of at least twice the volume of yours. Even the tinier micro species of fish require a tank of minimum 'footprint' 60cm x 30cm as they need to be kept in larger shoal numbers.

Good luck with however you proceed - the aquascape would be lovely in its own right but the shrimp or snails might provide some added interest for you and they can be quite fascinating to watch.



Re: Its a shame
Posted on: 24/6/2017 17:06
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It is a shame when a forum closes and all the information is lost. Facebook is centralising the internet into one place which isn't a good thing for anyone except the really computer challenged people out there who can't use Google or type in a URL.

I just checked our stats and the site has the same number of visits/visitors as 10 years ago but the page views and time on site is down. 5.5 million visits and nearly 14 million page views in 10 years!

FK has a ton of information, most of which is easy to find so I think a lot of people get help without needing to post or join the site.



Very Sick Black Moor, Please Help!
Posted on: 24/6/2017 16:41
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Hi everybody!

I've had my black moor fish for three months now, and she's become very sick over the past few days... She had some health problems before (she was going cloudy all over, it wasn't a fungal infection though, and her fins were becoming clamped and deformed) once I realised this was due to the tank being far too small and the water being changed too frequently I moved her to a much larger tank, put some fresh plants in and have been closely monitoring the water ever since. She seemed to be getting better, she was much more lively and her fins went back to normal, and the cloudiness on her body disappeared. She looked like a healthy fish again.

But for a few days now she's been lying on the bottom of the tank and only moving at feeding times. Her fins are extremely clamped and close to the body, and she's lost so much weight, she no longer has that healthy round-bellied black moor shape and her gills are now very open and visible, it's like she's having trouble breathing

I've just checked the water and the levels read as follows:

NO3: 40
NO2: 0.5
Ph: 7.5
Kh: 240
Gh: 180

These levels all seem normal to me, I have one other black moor in the tank and he's absolutely thriving, he honestly looks like the perfect black moor specimen. I have a filter in the tank, I put in a little aquarium salt every two weeks, and I also have three fresh plants in there. I feed my fish flake food once a day and I've been advised to do a 25% water change once a week. My tank is next to a window so it's prone to getting brown algae, but I wipe that away regularly.

I really don't know what to do, I'd be so so grateful if somebody could help, any suggestions are appreciated! Thankyou!

EDIT: I have now attached a photo which may help!

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Its a shame
Posted on: 24/6/2017 15:33
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Another forum I post on (nothing to do with fish / ponds or pets) Has just closed its doors for the last time.
Looking at FK's top ten posters, 9 of them no longer post (one, last posted 3 years ago)
It does seem such a shame, all the effort that goes into running a forum.
There is more to life than just social media. I for one intend to stay till the end. So please, support your favourite forum.

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Acclimating new goldfish - stress to the fish keeper
Posted on: 24/6/2017 8:58
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Hi all,

I posted on here a few weeks ago as my newly acquired goldfish displayed signs of a bacterial infection within a few days of bringing him/her home. Unfortunately he/she passed over night as I was looking on here for some advice. See my post under emergencies.

Rather than using the forum to only seek advice, I thought I would share my most recent experience; which has caused me some concern over the last day, but hopefully my experience can assist someone else in a similar position.

After keeping a reef tank for the last 4 years, I was quite disillusioned with the hobby and it was time for a change. I needed something that would stimulate my interest after having to admit ‘defeat’ with saltwater. Defeat is being melodramatic, but the time, effort and expense far outweighed the enjoyment, so it was time to draw that experience to an end.

I had thought about discus, which I had kept briefly many years ago, but the memory of seeing a tank of good quality fancy goldfish has stayed with me over many years, so my next set-up was to be fancy goldfish – oranda’s to be specific. I don’t know why, but I just love the look of them.

After deciding to make fancies my next project, I set about looking for high quality fish. With respect to LFS, finding quality is like finding hen’s teeth. I had two options – use local LFS or use an on-line specialist. I opted originally to seek out ‘nice’ fish from the LFS albeit not the highest quality or widest variety.

After my initial disappointment, I decided on using an on-line specialist and I am now the proud ‘parent’ LOL, of 4 magnificent oranda’s – Calico red cap; Red; Panda and Tri-colour, but this is not the point of my post.

Given the distance between the dealer and myself, the fish when they arrived, had been in transit for around 16 hours or so; therefore I was prepared for apathy and some settling in, but I didn’t expect what transpired.

I have never had fish travel from the dealer to my tank for more than an hour, so I researched how to acclimate fish after a long journey. Unfortunately, whilst the Internet is a source of excellent information, it is also a haven for so much misinformation ranging from ludicrous to downright dangerous. Deciding what is actually properly researched advice and what is just regurgitated anecdotal information with no solid basis can sometimes be quite challenging.

Based on research and my own experience, I decided to float the bag for 15 minutes and check the PH when I opened the bag; which was around 6.6 and my normal is around 7.4. Some advice is to immediately transfer the fish into the tank and others is to add some tank water.

I have kept many types of fish for many years, but I have never been so stressed acclimating these wee guys. I was really starting to over-think the process simply because I was conscious they had been in a bag for so long.

I checked the PH, and added some tank water slowly over the next 20 minutes. I had read goldfish (perhaps most others as well) accept moving to a higher PH but are less tolerant of moving to a lower PH, but I don’t know the validity of this. I was now in a quandary – do I add water and check the PH until I get a match – but over what time period? 20 minutes / 60 minutes? I have acclimated many fish and even quite a few corals, but I was really starting to over-think this whole process, so it was time to add them to the tank.

Something I don’t think I have done before when transferring fish is to use my hands. I have noted on-line, many goldfish suppliers / breeders etc. often handle the fish. This seemed more pragmatic than trying to use the net, and certainly is how I would transfer these guys again if need be. Obviously certain precautions are required to ensure you don’t damage the scales with dry hands or drop the fish.

After 30-minutes of 3 fish sitting on the gravel, I was starting to be concerned. After 60-minutes, I was getting very concerned. Near 2 hours and I was worried. I had one fish moving about the tank pretty much how I would expect, but I had 3 fish that were just sitting there and when they moved, it wasn’t the most graceful. (Swim bladder issues??)

I was starting to second-guess my acclimation process and was concerned after being in a bag with a shallow body of water for so long, the extra pressure of the water depth was having an effect.

My tank is quite deep, so after about 30-minutes I reduced the water level, eventually over a period of time by 50% and whilst I was getting some lethargic movement, it was not filling me with confidence, but there was an improvement.

After 2 hours I phoned the dealer who assured me this was perfectly normal behaviour and not to worry. His advice was simply to ensure the fish have good water and not interfere with them.

After speaking with him, I started to fill the tank back up slowly and for a short period, my temperature started to rise and perhaps it was coincidental, but the fish seemed more alert and started moving more.

After a further 3 hours, I had 3 fish moving about, albeit 2 of them were quite lethargic, but at least there was an improvement. The following morning, I had the 4 fish moving about the tank slowly but this is exactly the type of behaviour I had expected shortly after putting them in the tank. I wasn’t expecting the level of lethargy and sitting on the bottom for extended periods of time.

This is the reason for my post. Goldfish I have come to learn, do behave in many ways differently from tropical / salt water fish and behaviour that I would normally associate with illness / severe stress, is perhaps not as abnormal as first thought.

My advice based on this experience being – if you are transporting goldfish over an extended period of time, acclimate the way YOU are comfortable. Don’t over-analyse your process. Have a plan and stick to it.

Consider lowering the tank water depth for a period of time to help with any pressure difference associated with the fish being in a shallow body of water for such a long time. Increase the temperature slightly, either with a heater or with the new water being added and add an extra air stone.

My experience may be completely different from others and a number of factors could contribute to the behaviour I experienced and some of the measures I adopted may not be beneficial (not detrimental either) and maybe just a panacea for me to feel I am doing something.

The advice I will leave you with is the same, which the dealer gave me. Don’t worry; this type of behaviour is perfectly normal. Ensure they have good water and leave them alone.

Hope this short experience helps.




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